Dual Logitech Extreme 3D or TM 1600M FCS

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Thoughts on the two entry level sticks? I've watched a lot of videos but wanted to see if anyone around here has any specific suggestions? As primarily a miner, hauler and logistics player i'm not sure if spending a ton is really warranted on joysticks. Your thoughts on this also appreciated.

Or with my professions should ibbe going hotas?

thanks in advance.
 
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As a miner, hauler and logistic player you don't need dual sticks. Dual sticks works perfect for dogfighting, although the added strafing control could come in handy when manouvring ships precisely.
The T16000 seems to be the best deal, it has the same 3D Hall Effect magnetic sensors as the Warthog, but lacks the buttons on stick.


The Logitech has 1 button extra on top and the thumb button, but has mechanical gimball. It also lacks the buttons on the right side of the base, which are practical if you use dual sticks. The Logitech is meant to be used as a center stick, right hand on stick, left hand on buttons and throttle.

HOTAS would be better for your preferred profession, it only lacks the strafe precision of a lefthand stick. On a HOTAS strafe is digital, only a few rare exceptions with a mini analog stick on the throttle.
 
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Thanks i could get the 16000M with the flight pack. Then i could ise the pedals for something as well; however you dont get fine motor movement with your feet
 
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you dont get fine motor movement with your feet
If you want to get the ultimate flexibility, then I would suggest to get both. The T16000M flight pack and a 2nd T16000M. The 16000M flight pack will provide the means to perform your preferred profession, the 2nd T16000M will give you the extra precision you maybe need for your maneuverability.
However, be advised. To use pedals effectively, you need a fixed chair, it helps a lot for fine motor movement with your feet. When you have a office / gaming chair on wheels which can turn, you won't have a lot fun with your pedals.
To use a flight stick effectively without fatigue, uncomfortable position, you need to fix them at armrest height. Adding a throttle to that setup makes it even more challenging to get the right position for every control.
Above problems (and a few displays) caused me to build my own "desk": TEST simpit BEST simpit
 
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Decided to go with the t16000m fcs hotas to get started. Gets delivered tomorrow so i can use it in flight school tomorrow night.
 

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@cerated did you configured the t16000m correct? Remember the primary controls:
- pitch
- yaw
- roll
- shoot
- strafe up/down
- strafe left/right
- throttle
- target
The rest will come later. If you want you can borrow my LN or another fighter, but since you go with a MR, I would suggest to learn fight with an Aurora, they are hard targets if you know how to use them :wink:
 
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@marcsand2 thanks for asking. I haven't sorted it yet as I've been heavily focused on finishing my new computer. Sadly I'm having to build a custom mount for my d5 pump in order to get it into my case as none of the case standard mounts and mounts on the market were going to work for my particular build. I am building into a Fractal Nano S so space is limited.

So I find myself today cutting aluminium and thread taping holes; however it's giving me a good idea of what i am going to do to mod my chair in order to mount my sticks onto it.

Anyhow I think it will take me another week to finally finish all of my computer and then start to focus on my chair and sticks.
 
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