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No reason not to, last time we came to the conclusion Guns are part of the US national identity and aren't going to go away so lets try to get somewhere this time. Cool. Lets take a look at the Second Amendment, as I'm from outa town I have no idea about it. I've heared "Second Amendment" many...

I've only just found out there is a second part to that sketch: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4 THANKS JOHNATHAN!

Hi, only just noticed this - You're absolutely right, we've been looping points which were covered in the first few pages of this thread so discourse seems to have little to be gained - and would in a normal thread, but on this occasion "Agreeing to disagree" costs more and more lives that we...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke There is also a longer version which in this case also seems to ring true: "Whilst men are linked together, they easily and speedily communicate the alarm of any evil design. They are enabled to...

Hi @Passeeo, many thanks for your observations some interesting ones there in regard to compliance. If I could just ask you remove the personal comment on the end, this has been a civilized discussion so far :slight_smile: You are just as entitled to your opinion as anyone else in this...

Yes I am serious and it is still happening today: https://www.wired.com/2008/11/homeland-securi/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43990321/ns/us_news-security/t/us-proposes-ammonium-nitrate-regulations/#.WolEEebLifQ https://fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/R43070.pdf...

Right: Kid waits for teacher to write something on a chalk board, shoots them in the back of the head. Not much chance to defend yourself, unless every teacher is too scared to turn their backs on their class...? Kid then jams a chair under the door handle and 20+ dead before anyone can get in...

Again, we have gone into the loop so lets make it as small as possible. As I said in my previous post: "Arming everyone is an exercise in escalation, not a solution: So the Teacher is armed. It doesn't take an college grade education for a shooter to walk into a classroom and shoot the...

Your argument in semantics doesn't really help when it goes from 8 with fatalities or serious injuries to 17 reported firearm related incidents in the first 7 weeks of this year - that works out at 126 this year if it keeps up at this rate. You are right, they are great numbers, they really help...

I don't see any of those incidents involving a school, thankfully. That is the example I used and I used it for a reason: The UK has gone without a school mass shooting for 22 years, In comparison there have been 8 school shootings in the first 7 weeks of this year in America...

Define "Good People". Okay, as the threads previous answers don't seem to have provided satisfaction, I'll try a different tac: The UK has not had a school mass shooting since Dunblane in 1996, by regulating firearms. Since that time there have been no mass school shootings. But further to...

The new rocket is so good because you can use it over and over again. A Saturn 5 contains a million components and is a single use vehicle. You bring together a million bits and its over in one flight. You may as well blow the thing to bits on the launch pad, the result, for the vehicle, is the...

Just to reappraise as we have entered a bit of a loop here: Earlier in the thread we came to the conclusion that culturally and with the suffusion of guns already in America, we are not going to accomplish what Australia did and Ban Guns. No one is talking about that anymore, we've all come to...

So... the Republicans were concerned about mental health issues and gun accessibility to those known to have mental health issues when the Republican President repealed the law that stopped people with known mental issues buying and owning guns...? In Gun We Trust.

You are very fair, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I think inadvertently you have hit the nail on the head here: Opinion. Please answer my following (provocative) question: What do you think of Nikolas Cruz opinion to go into a school and kill a bunch of kids between the ages of 14...

I think I've worked out whats in the boot: A hat and a flamethrower.

Aww damn it. I was hoping all the food in the future would be in pill form like the 1950's said it would be. :( Seriously. Although eating is nice i'm not a foodie and would be happy on mealtabs or whatever food pills would be called.

Lest we forget.

So sad to post on this thread again. It's all been said before. We have had the arguments we came to the conclusion it's cultural and just something thats not going to change, so no need to go over it again. In Gun We Trust: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43081361

That was fun. I wonder if they'll ever answer.