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You wont be trolling bigger ships with a Mis sorry lol.
Yeah I know. The 'trolling bigger ships' comment is mostly made in jest. I just want to be useful when doing the upcoming Idris NPC missions.

Looking at a cost benefit ratio here. As it is, a Freelancer MIS is more useful for me. I'm leaning towards the Vanguard Harbinger as well but the price tag is steep. I've been flying all the different bombers lately and that one appeals to me the most.
 

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Yeah I know. The 'trolling bigger ships' comment is mostly made in jest. I just want to be useful when doing the upcoming Idris NPC missions.

Looking at a cost benefit ratio here. As it is, a Freelancer MIS is more useful for me. I'm leaning towards the Vanguard Harbinger as well but the price tag is steep. I've been flying all the different bombers lately and that one appeals to me the most.
Ya I looked at a MIS also, pretty cool missile boat!
 

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The problem I had was that the star destoyer was firing weapons in a ballistic arc. They also talked (IIRC, it's been a while since I subjected myself to that movie) about a range for their weapons. Two things wrong. If their weapons are in ballistic arcs because they are physical objects, then in space, there really isn't a "range" They just adjust to send the weapons on the appropriate intercept trajectory. If they are energy weapons, then they might have a range due to dispersion, but there won't be a gravity impact, so no ballistic arc.

As for the "bombs" yes, you could use bombs on a gravity well, but un-powered torpedoes would work just as well (but smaller payload for the size). Additionally, you could say that the racks had an "artificial gravity ejector rack" that would accelerate the bombs out the bomb bay as if it were under the influence of a gravity well.

In reality, they just didn't care about it other than "does it look cool". Unfortunately, when driven by the rule of cool, they also forgot the "does it make sense" from the way the SW universe has been up to date. When you throw the baby out with the bathwater, you are going to have a problem....
 

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Star Citizen doesn't really have momentum. My ships stop (stops relative to what, I have no idea) when I cut thrust.
Actually, it does. When in coupled (default) mode, when you cut thrust, your thrusters fire to bring you to a halt relative to the appropriate frame of reference. When you decouple, you send yourself down a vector, and when you cut thrust, you will continue down that path until you start using your thrusters to make a change in you vector. (to change or halt your current direction and speed).

Putting it another way, when you cut thrust in coupled mode, your ship automatically applies the brakes to bring you to a stop or to move you on to a new vector. When in decouple mode, you must manually apply thrust on one or more axis to change the vector your ship is traveling along. If you want to stop in decoupled mode, just use the spacebrake and it will wire the appropriate thrusters to bring you to a halt. The better the thruster opposing the direction of travel, the faster you will stop. So if your main engines or VTOL engines are pointed along the direction of travel, you will stop faster than if just your port or starboard maneuvering thrusters (MAVS) are the only ones pointed in that direction
 

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Yeah I know. The 'trolling bigger ships' comment is mostly made in jest. I just want to be useful when doing the upcoming Idris NPC missions.

Looking at a cost benefit ratio here. As it is, a Freelancer MIS is more useful for me. I'm leaning towards the Vanguard Harbinger as well but the price tag is steep. I've been flying all the different bombers lately and that one appeals to me the most.
being useful in the idris missions can be done with many ships. The freelancer has 4 S3 weapons, and a Connie can mount S5 weapons (at least in 2 spots...damn you J. Crew). Those will put some hurt on the Idris shields. A Sabre can be useful if the ship launches fighters, or to target turrets. A Hammerhead can be used to push the Idris's nose off target, or it can be used to just open up on the Idris iteself. Having someone be a gunner on a Hammerhead or Cutlass will be very useful on those type of missions, so you don't even need a ship. This means that even people with just an Aurora or a Mustang will be able to help out in some very meaningful ways.

Bombers won't be the only useful ship or position for those missions.
 
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Don't forget to rent the Harbinger...it has the same problem now that the Gladiator has, that is, you can't chose to fire the torpodoes...you have to fire the missiles first, in the order on the MFD, and after your one set of missiles are dry, then you get to the torpedoes.

It took me 2 size 5's to kill the Mustang on the bounty hunter pro tem mission...wtf?
 

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Hell, if you're wanting to help with those massive ship missions, I'm sure that if we have enough EMP ships like the Sentinel & Warlock zapping them to help take down the shields & systems of the targets, it'll help make the attacks of others all the more effective.
 
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It isn't a bomber. It is a freighter converted to be a convoy escort. Call it a poor man's Q-Ship.
Actually you are wrong, it's a missile boat converted into a freighter after the war ended. ;)

I agree about the poor man though - well the poor men that happened to cross my freelancer mis anyway - all those mustangs and bucaneers that didn't last 5 seconds, those cutlass, connies and cats that that they could get a piece of easy meat only to taste the vaccum of space, those dual joystick sabre meta kiddies that thought 8 x s1 missiles were enough to do the job only to find that actually 4 x S3 lasers can do the job much better. The guy in the connie who sneakily followed me down to the mining outpost and attacked as I was landing only to end up getting blown up 10 seconds after I took off again.


i LOVE my freelancer MIS - I picked her up for 165 dollars, and I won't let anyone smack talk about her :D
 

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Why two Retaliators?

Note I am not saying it is necessarily a bad idea, I am just curious. :)
Long Story bro!

Well I did some Maths(tm) and realised I could melt my stupid CCU'd from a dragonfly tally, and buy a brand spanking new easily meltabl Taly for exactly the same price.

I've been wanting more flexibility in my fleet, so I can melt and unlemt as ships get released or reworked.

The CCU'd from LTI token ships I have (all of them) are a pain in the butt, as if I melt them, they gone forever, and because the CCU cost changes when the ship price goes up, you cant ever buy them back for the same price. Now I've got the Tally and Eclipse that I can melt when I want to try out something new, and in the case of the Tally buy it back when it get's it's workover and hopeful modularity.

But then I thought I may as well pick up a base model tali too - and use that right now, that way I've moved from a flyable tali, to a flyable tali, and put $100 back in my store credit to play with something else in the mean time.

That make sense?

It made sense to me last ngiht after 10 beers anyway... ;)
 

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Actually you are wrong, it's a missile boat converted into a freighter after the war ended. ;)

I agree about the poor man though - well the poor men that happened to cross my freelancer mis anyway - all those mustangs and bucaneers that didn't last 5 seconds, those cutlass, connies and cats that that they could get a piece of easy meat only to taste the vaccum of space, those dual joystick sabre meta kiddies that thought 8 x s1 missiles were enough to do the job only to find that actually 4 x S3 lasers can do the job much better. The guy in the connie who sneakily followed me down to the mining outpost and attacked as I was landing only to end up getting blown up 10 seconds after I took off again.


i LOVE my freelancer MIS - I picked her up for 165 dollars, and I won't let anyone smack talk about her :D
Funny the lore ssys freighter first. So do the stats. :)
 
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Actually you are wrong, it's a missile boat converted into a freighter after the war ended. ;)

I agree about the poor man though - well the poor men that happened to cross my freelancer mis anyway - all those mustangs and bucaneers that didn't last 5 seconds, those cutlass, connies and cats that that they could get a piece of easy meat only to taste the vaccum of space, those dual joystick sabre meta kiddies that thought 8 x s1 missiles were enough to do the job only to find that actually 4 x S3 lasers can do the job much better. The guy in the connie who sneakily followed me down to the mining outpost and attacked as I was landing only to end up getting blown up 10 seconds after I took off again.


i LOVE my freelancer MIS - I picked her up for 165 dollars, and I won't let anyone smack talk about her :D
Well, she does have a limited view of the world. And good luck not bumping your head on the rear turret getting any cargo on or off it. And good luck landing anywhere else besides landing pads with them short stubby legs.

And while the Carrack is my current love I still have a soft spot for the MIS.
 
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Don't dis the Freelancer...with 4 size 3 guns on turrets (so you can use the gimbal assist) as well as 2 Size 2 shields, you have sizeable guns and sizeable shields...and then on top of that, with the MIS you have the missiles.

Great for transporting high-value cargo!
 
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Don't dis the Freelancer...with 4 size 3 guns on turrets (so you can use the gimbal assist) as well as 2 Size 2 shields, you have sizeable guns and sizeable shields...and then on top of that, with the MIS you have the missiles.

Great for transporting high-value cargo!
Nobody dissing the MIS, but his first comment did say he wanted to troll larger ships and I am sorry as cool as this ship is, it ain't gonna troll large or capital ships its just gonna get bish slapped! :P
 

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All this talk had me take my Retaliator out of the hangar, and you know what, it really flies like crap.

My Connie flies better.

I might have to consider replacing 'ol PT-73. No idea with what yet, but it might just have to go.
 
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