Transferring cargo

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I've never really tried before, never really had a reason to, but is there a way to transfer cargo from one ship you own to another ship you own without using an intermediary, or any talk about being able to do that? Specifically I was thinking about the Starfarer. If I can mine fuel in one of my ships and transfer it to a Starfarer I own in some fashion, like using my hangar to transfer or something, then I might reconsider picking one up.
 

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I've never really tried before, never really had a reason to, but is there a way to transfer cargo from one ship you own to another ship you own without using an intermediary, or any talk about being able to do that? Specifically I was thinking about the Starfarer. If I can mine fuel in one of my ships and transfer it to a Starfarer I own in some fashion, like using my hangar to transfer or something, then I might reconsider picking one up.
Theres no way to do this yet (as far as i know) but in the future im pretty sure you will be able to. Open up alot of gameplay options, like mining ore in a prospector and transfering over to lets say a caterpiller for a few hours stopping the need to quantum back and forth all the time. Just weigh it all in at the end, others will know more than me👍
 

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Personally I would hold off on buying a Starfarer currently. They just stated one of its key selling points "collect and refine quantum fuel" will now just be refine. Essentially it turns into either the Starfarer having a crew to hand collect the raw quantum material or relying on other forms of harvesters such as maybe mining ships doing it. Don't expect an Orion to follow you around to do this. Your only option would be the prospector however we don't know if their containers can contain the material or if it can actually be mined.

They have said eventually at some point you could store items into your hangar but that is far off. I'd wait overall until clarification comes in on the Starfarer and until details come in on the hangar storage
 

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Personally I would hold off on buying a Starfarer currently. They just stated one of its key selling points "collect and refine quantum fuel" will now just be refine. Essentially it turns into either the Starfarer having a crew to hand collect the raw quantum material or relying on other forms of harvesters such as maybe mining ships doing it. Don't expect an Orion to follow you around to do this. Your only option would be the prospector however we don't know if their containers can contain the material or if it can actually be mined.

They have said eventually at some point you could store items into your hangar but that is far off. I'd wait overall until clarification comes in on the Starfarer and until details come in on the hangar storage
That's the thing, I had just started thinking about getting a starfarer the day before this announcement was made. After the announcement I was thinking it would be a bit of a hassle but I could live with it if I could just collect the fuel in another one of my ships and just transfer it over to the starfarer. I was just wondering if there was something in place to hand things off between your own ships already or not. Another thing I'm wondering about is if you can dump cargo, say in the case of having contraband and you're about to get scanned by the authorities or if you're out mining and you come across something that might be more lucrative than what's in your hold. Guess I'll wait and see.
 

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Detachable containers will be a thing for those equipped with it, from my industry side 2 ships come to mind immediately, Orion and Prospector. Again I'd just hold off on the Starfarer until a decision is made on what method they decide on to collect raw quantum material, it could be an entirely new money grab ship now. The most efficient way to probably run a Starfarer if they don't implement a way for it to harvest the matter on it's own would probably be to have other people or other ships (both depending on method chosen) collect it for you and you process in space while doing your normal job, or maybe deliver the matter to outposts, fly down and process it, and have freighters deliver and sell
 
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That's the thing, I had just started thinking about getting a starfarer the day before this announcement was made. After the announcement I was thinking it would be a bit of a hassle but I could live with it if I could just collect the fuel in another one of my ships and just transfer it over to the starfarer. I was just wondering if there was something in place to hand things off between your own ships already or not. Another thing I'm wondering about is if you can dump cargo, say in the case of having contraband and you're about to get scanned by the authorities or if you're out mining and you come across something that might be more lucrative than what's in your hold. Guess I'll wait and see.
When was this announcement?
 

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When was this announcement?
Couple days ago on spectrum. Chris Roberts does not want the Starfarer to be another large mining type vessel so now you will either have to EVA out to hand collect the raw matter or have it picked up by other ships. No decision has been made on how it's exactly collected yet
 
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Ok, found it.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/quantum-drives/2031273

The Starfarer will be able to transport and deliver / refuel in flight both regular thruster propellant and Quantum Matter. It will also be able to refine Quantum Matter into Quantum Fuel. The only aspect not decided is the mining aspect as we really don't want to make the Starfafer a heavy duty mining ship but its likely we'll have some smaller equipment; like a hand held mining device to allow you to EVA out to collect Quantum Matter - but we haven't decided this just yet.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16517-The-Shipyard-Fuel-Mechanics

So it seems the Starfarer role has changed a bit but will still be needed for fleet engagements as a lot of the combat ships do not have a way to generate their own thruster fuel as well as future iterations of the fuel system will make it more difficult for ships to generate their own thruster fuel.
Fuel Intakes will do a basic conversion on a limited range of gas types.​
Using your Fuel Intakes in regular space may scoop limited quantities of gas or none at all.​
Fuel Intakes will do a basic conversion on a limited range of gas types.​
These tanks can only store one type of plasma at a time.​

On top of that I fully expect Starfarer's to be at mining spots anyways refueling the fleet of transport ships and security forces. While it is interesting to find out they might not be harvesting quantum fuel directly it just means they will be getting ore shipments from the Orion to process the Quantum fuel on site instead of jumping off to a gas giant.
 
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So it seems the Starfarer role has changed a bit but will still be needed for fleet engagements
I think CIG has finally got it, but they need to manage this WAY better than they have or everyone's going to bail on this ship. The idea they seem to have I totally get, but if I had money on that ship I'd be looking bail too. It's uncertainty that's going to tick people off. That ship may be the mainstay of a personal fleet, and all that changes now. Yes, it is a risk we all take with this game right now, but the risk should also flows the other way.
 
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I think CIG has finally got it, but they need to manage this WAY better than they have or everyone's going to bail on this ship. The idea they seem to have I totally get, but if I had money on that ship I'd be looking bail too. It's uncertainty that's going to tick people off. That ship may be the mainstay of a personal fleet, and all that changes now. Yes, it is a risk we all take with this game right now, but the risk should also flows the other way.
Peeps still gonna need to refuel in game, either hydrogen or quantum.
 
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So it seems the Starfarer role has changed a bit but will still be needed for fleet engagements as a lot of the combat ships do not have a way to generate their own thruster fuel as well as future iterations of the fuel system will make it more difficult for ships to generate their own thruster fuel.
Fuel Intakes will do a basic conversion on a limited range of gas types.​
Using your Fuel Intakes in regular space may scoop limited quantities of gas or none at all.​
Fuel Intakes will do a basic conversion on a limited range of gas types.​
These tanks can only store one type of plasma at a time.​

On top of that I fully expect Starfarer's to be at mining spots anyways refueling the fleet of transport ships and security forces. While it is interesting to find out they might not be harvesting quantum fuel directly it just means they will be getting ore shipments from the Orion to process the Quantum fuel on site instead of jumping off to a gas giant.
There is no idea that they will need mining ship for this, most of it is just speculation at this point. All that has been clarified is that it will become a harvestable resource, of which they don't want the Starfarer to become the vessel to directly do it, more the one to collect basic gases and refine the quantum matter. Again, the Starfarer is sold as "Designed to collect and refine Quantum fuel"

I have said this already on spectrum and of which I now avoid spectrum because its gone too tiring now to read.

The Starfarer is a ship designed, or sold as such to collect a certain type of material (fuel in this case) in large quantities and refine it, hence it being a large based ship with a refinery.

Take for example an Orion, it is designed to harvest ore/minerals in large quantities and refine them, what happens when there is one mineral/ore that you have to get out and harvest by hand, or outsource to others so you can refine it?

Same rule applies on the Reclaimer as the above sentence.

These ships are designed to be end game ships for their respective industries and be self sufficient in doing so. This now introduces gameplay of either having to hop out of your ship to hand collect the raw matter, which is said to be highly unstable now as well, or use other means/ships to do it.

I get it, it means more gameplay, still doesn't take away the fact they changed how it was advertised to backers and how now due to one statement, it's gameplay has to be changed.

Again this is all my personal view and right now there is a ton of speculation, all we can do is wait and see what comes from it
 
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Yep wait and see has always been the case. Personally, I just like seeing how the evolution of features makes each feature more dependent and interconnected with other features.
 

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Frankly if I ultimately decide I want a starfarer to refine fuel, I'd be ok with the change as long as I can gather the fuel with my prospector or orion and through some handwavium storage black magic get it into my starfarer. I'll pick up another ship if that's what I need to do to get part of that process done but I want to know I can get from point A to point B by myself if I need to
 

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Well considering a Starfarer and Orion are both multicrew ships, doing it by yourself won't work until NPC crews are in. If you want to buy a Starfarer go for it
 
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Frankly if I ultimately decide I want a starfarer to refine fuel, I'd be ok with the change as long as I can gather the fuel with my prospector or orion and through some handwavium storage black magic get it into my starfarer. I'll pick up another ship if that's what I need to do to get part of that process done but I want to know I can get from point A to point B by myself if I need to
If the Prospector is going to be used for this, don't forget the storage pods are supposed to be removable and transferable to another ship.
 
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