Virpil restock and Constellation Alpha pre-order and Sunlight Dynamics 6DOF stick

[SpudNyk]

See here for more information - looks like very nice upgrade over the constellation delta

Some of you might remember the 6DOF joystick prototypes from a while back, well their early-access kickstarter is live, be warned this is an expensive small run, they plan a larger more consumer friendly priced kickstarter sometime next year. It's a slightly different approach than the alpha, it's nice to see all these control options popping up!

 

[DirectorGunner]

I'm still waiting for a quality metal left-handed joystick to release.
Something to pair nicely with the metal right-hand warthog stick

 

[SpudNyk]

I'm still waiting for a quality metal left-handed joystick to release.
Something to pair nicely with the metal right-hand warthog stick

I have a warthog, but I don't think the metal is that great. I did have the mongoose right and left handed, that plastic was ok - not the best, However I recently got the VFX from virpil (as it has twist) and that thing feels solid, much improved on the original mongoose. Getting the alpha for the left hand and by the looks of the pics, the build quality looks on par with the VFX soI don't think I'll be disappointed with the quality at all.

That said definitely understand if it's an aesthetic thing, but don't think plastic stick don't feel good (the warthog gimbal though - yuck!).

 

[Shadow Reaper]

Wow. But again no chair mount. I am annoyed. Color me annoyed. Annoyed I am, I say. ANNOYED!!!

It's a funny word, like "turtles". Just feels funny in the mouth.

 

[Blind Owl]

Shit. That's freaking expensive as fuck! Think I'll just keep my current setup (x55 + t16000m) until we see whether SC will be worth playing with dual sticks. If those fucking pips etc don't get fixed...

 

[SpudNyk]

Shit. That's freaking expensive as fuck! Think I'll just keep my current setup (x55 + t16000m) until we see whether SC will be worth playing with dual sticks. If those fucking pips etc don't get fixed...

The virpil's were definitely a huge upgrade for me and much better build quality, but much more expensive. I do keep hoping it would break out of being so niche and get more popular and drive the prices down a little bit.

 

[Blind Owl]

The virpil's were definitely a huge upgrade for me and much better build quality, but much more expensive. I do keep hoping it would break out of being so niche and get more popular and drive the prices down a little bit.

Oh I'd freaking love a set. I love dual stick flight. Absolutely the best immersion in my mind. But if combat with dual sticks isn't as effective as mouse and keyboard, then I don't know if there's really a point. Unless you're switching from flight on sticks to combat on M+K. But that seems silly.

Have they ever fixed the pips? Is combat with joysticks a thing anymore?

 

[SpudNyk]

Oh I'd freaking love a set. I love dual stick flight. Absolutely the best immersion in my mind. But if combat with dual sticks isn't as effective as mouse and keyboard, then I don't know if there's really a point. Unless you're switching from flight on sticks to combat on M+K. But that seems silly.

Have they ever fixed the pips? Is combat with joysticks a thing anymore?

I haven't had time to try this patch so I can't say with any confidence. I much prefer flying with sticks (definitely the best immersion) and a dual stick setup is just fun, as always with SC it's a work in progress but I don't feel as though HOTAS/HOSAS/... are going to go away anytime soon. I am hopeful that they will balance the M+K gimbal vs stick issues appropriately.

 

[Will C.]

@Blind Owl yes combat with dual sticks can still be good depending on your dexterity. @DirectorGunner The warthog on a virpil base is much better than the shitty TM gimbal. Also virpil grips are not metal but are still durable and good quality. This alpha would be a perfect left hand grip to go with the WH.

 

[Blind Owl]

I haven't had time to try this patch so I can't say with any confidence. I much prefer flying with sticks (definitely the best immersion) and a dual stick setup is just fun, as always with SC it's a work in progress but I don't feel as though HOTAS/HOSAS/... are going to go away anytime soon. I am hopeful that they will balance the M+K gimbal vs stick issues appropriately.

Good to hear. That sets my mind at ease. If that is the case, then once mechanics settle, I'll perhaps look at getting myself a nice set of virpils.

@Blind Owl yes combat with dual sticks can still be good depending on your dexterity. @DirectorGunner The warthog on a virpil base is much better than the shitty TM gimbal. Also virpil grips are not metal but are still durable and good quality. This alpha would be a perfect left hand grip to go with the WH.

Depending on my dexterity?? But...but...I'm old! Haha.

 

[Sirus7264]

Wow. But again no chair mount. I am annoyed. Color me annoyed. Annoyed I am, I say. ANNOYED!!!

It's a funny word, like "turtles". Just feels funny in the mouth.

If you build it they will come.

 

[Vavrik]

I haven't had time to try this patch so I can't say with any confidence. I much prefer flying with sticks (definitely the best immersion) and a dual stick setup is just fun, as always with SC it's a work in progress but I don't feel as though HOTAS/HOSAS/... are going to go away anytime soon. I am hopeful that they will balance the M+K gimbal vs stick issues appropriately.

You're right, HOTAS and HOSAS are not going away. But there is a little confusion - HOTAS is the same as a joystick, but it has built in throttle controls or it's not HOTAS. That's all it gives you vs something with other initials.
I don't like HOSAS personally, but I do like to have something other than the keyboard, picking my nose, or masterbation for my left hand to do... so I've been checking out my throttle control... The Thrustmaster TWCS, the problem is right now I don't have space to put it. Plan is to get a new desk for all this. I'm now using 1 PC, 2 laptops, 2 tablets, and a cell phone... I'm looking what it would cost to upgrade some of this, but holy crap.

 

[Will C.]

@Blind Owl i to am old :)

 

[Crimsontarget]

The Sunlight Dynamics 6DOF stick looks interesting. Not I can afford to drop $1000 interesting, mind you. Not sure how good this would be for combat. For general flying around could be quite viable.

Maybe when the price drops for the general release. They should go and get some to test at citizencon. Good marketing, good testbed. Oh and I get to try it out of course.

 

[Blind Owl]

@Blind Owl i to am old :)

Haha, look at us old farts, trying (in my case) to fly with grace and dexterity. Ugh. I need more beer.

 

[Cugino83]

See here for more information - looks like very nice upgrade over the constellation delta

Some of you might remember the 6DOF joystick prototypes from a while back, well their early-access kickstarter is live, be warned this is an expensive small run, they plan a larger more consumer friendly priced kickstarter sometime next year. It's a slightly different approach than the alpha, it's nice to see all these control options popping up!

Really love the new Virpil stick, a bit expensive but the quality, for the review I've seen, are top tier.

The 6DOF joistick is a nice idea but man, call it pricy is an enormouse understatement!! 1k for a device, just out of prototipe stage and produced by a basically unknow company??
That is far to much of a gamble (and judging they KS I'm not the only one thinking that way). Love the idea, but they really need to lover the price and provide more information on the structure of the stick (internal material, quality of assemble etc)...

 

[StdDev]

Haha, look at us old farts, trying (in my case) to fly with grace and dexterity. Ugh. I need more beer.

Does it hurt to be so old?

 

[Blind Owl]

Does it hurt to be so old?

Hahaha, nope. Not at all. ;) No complaints here.

 

[Vavrik]

Hahaha, nope. Not at all. ;) No complaints here.

Just wait.