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Interesting. So if 100 people were shot in the spine and paralyzed permanently from the waist down by a highly skilled rouge shooter, that would not be considered a mass shooting by the definition in America? I was not aware of this... I have stated multiple times in the last four pages of this...

And as long as it meets "your" constitution I don't buy that easy access to guns is worth the price of the lives of a classroom full of kids. "agree to disagree" we've done it too many times. We're just going to have to disagree this time and see if anything changes. :slight_smile: God bless...

Incidentally I lived across the road from a Gun Shop (yes, here in the UK :slight_smile:) and they had a Insta-Fog generator which put vision went down to less than 1 inch, it filled the room in less than 0.5 seconds and at that point no robbery was going to be successful. They tested it once a...

Because we are civilized and @Passeeo kindly did it for the decorum of the conversation. Also it made his point a lot stronger and it'll make yours a lot stronger too :)

No, thats 18 Mass Shootings. I apologise I moved on a little as your videos had a guy talking about mass shootings in general, not just schools. My source for mass shootings: http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/15/many-mass-shootings-america-2018-7314649/ Sorry, looping, we have been over this several...

Ah, sorry. I was not aware we were arguing. I was discussing. We are looping here, Dunblane mass school shooting in 1996, ban controls tightened, no one has used a biological weapon or anything else in the 22 years since. We've already gone over that. Nope, as said in my original post about...

Title of the video - "Instant Justice" Is the punishment for robbery in the US execution by firing squad? I thought it was an average of 10 years in prison. I do note from the Youtube description that the guy lying on the ground died at the scene. He wasn't a good guy to be holding a shop up...

Yes, I know, hence my excellent AutoTurrets idea, let the Guns watch over us, let the Guns look after us. In Gun We Trust. I know, and you have put your points eloquently. I admit I have ignored some of your responses just as I'm sure you have ignored some of mine (Ammonium Nitrate...

No reason not to, last time we came to the conclusion Guns are part of the US national identity and aren't going to go away so lets try to get somewhere this time. Cool. Lets take a look at the Second Amendment, as I'm from outa town I have no idea about it. I've heared "Second Amendment" many...

I've only just found out there is a second part to that sketch: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4 THANKS JOHNATHAN!

Hi, only just noticed this - You're absolutely right, we've been looping points which were covered in the first few pages of this thread so discourse seems to have little to be gained - and would in a normal thread, but on this occasion "Agreeing to disagree" costs more and more lives that we...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke There is also a longer version which in this case also seems to ring true: "Whilst men are linked together, they easily and speedily communicate the alarm of any evil design. They are enabled to...

Hi @Passeeo, many thanks for your observations some interesting ones there in regard to compliance. If I could just ask you remove the personal comment on the end, this has been a civilized discussion so far :slight_smile: You are just as entitled to your opinion as anyone else in this...

Yes I am serious and it is still happening today: https://www.wired.com/2008/11/homeland-securi/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43990321/ns/us_news-security/t/us-proposes-ammonium-nitrate-regulations/#.WolEEebLifQ https://fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/R43070.pdf...

Right: Kid waits for teacher to write something on a chalk board, shoots them in the back of the head. Not much chance to defend yourself, unless every teacher is too scared to turn their backs on their class...? Kid then jams a chair under the door handle and 20+ dead before anyone can get in...

Again, we have gone into the loop so lets make it as small as possible. As I said in my previous post: "Arming everyone is an exercise in escalation, not a solution: So the Teacher is armed. It doesn't take an college grade education for a shooter to walk into a classroom and shoot the...

Your argument in semantics doesn't really help when it goes from 8 with fatalities or serious injuries to 17 reported firearm related incidents in the first 7 weeks of this year - that works out at 126 this year if it keeps up at this rate. You are right, they are great numbers, they really help...

I don't see any of those incidents involving a school, thankfully. That is the example I used and I used it for a reason: The UK has gone without a school mass shooting for 22 years, In comparison there have been 8 school shootings in the first 7 weeks of this year in America...

Define "Good People". Okay, as the threads previous answers don't seem to have provided satisfaction, I'll try a different tac: The UK has not had a school mass shooting since Dunblane in 1996, by regulating firearms. Since that time there have been no mass school shootings. But further to...

The new rocket is so good because you can use it over and over again. A Saturn 5 contains a million components and is a single use vehicle. You bring together a million bits and its over in one flight. You may as well blow the thing to bits on the launch pad, the result, for the vehicle, is the...