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But do we REALLY need another white male protagonist? I hope they recast him as something that hits a little harder for representation like a nimoidian or perhaps a force-sensitive Gonk droid. We need to send the message that its OKAY if you ghost your friends and return as a new person. It's called GROWTH. Also we need to include a scene where R2 gratuitously interfaces with C3-PO's rectal data-jack. We need to show audiences that hardcore bareback file transfers can be beautiful instead of just filthy. But we'll make it a LITTLE dirty....you know. For the fan-service.
 

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For some reason my brain first read that title as ‘Luke is back and still after the squirrels’. I had to do a double take on that.

Guess I’m going to need extra coffee this morning!
 

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Bottom line: Luke left his Imprint on Gazian. Probably running around in a white suite somewhere already. Waiting for the reclaiming of his X-Wing. What's the timer on that? 10-15 minutes I'd bet.

But do we REALLY need another white male protagonist?
If Luke's glorious return doesn't make you happy I better not tell you how everyone's favorite Space scoundrel is about to pull one over the grim Reaper...:glorious:
 

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Star Wars is dead.
My view is that the initial Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, and Death Star story has always been a hard act for Star Wars to follow. So its interesting to see someone attempting to add to the young Luke with Yoda story more again. I might be interested in that if they came up with some new angle on it like has been tested with some of the Jedi-focused character development TV shows. Otherwise, for next Star Wars, I'd rather see more attention paid to the older Jedi vs Sith story again - build better historic backstory, build stronger lore, build more meaning, build higher stakes and further set the stage for the later Vader and Luke story and classic film era to come. The movies haven't quite achieved a level of classic grandeur in that backstory yet, IMHO. So I'd rather see Star Wars production budgets going there.
 
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The Star Wars we remember will never be achieved again. Now hear me out - it has nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with nostalgia. We revere the old Star Wars for the feeling it elicited when we watched it for the first time; some of us in theaters. The new SW could be the best in the world, but it will never, ever capture that nostalgia and feeling that the originals did. And that's ok. The new SW is good, some of it is great, and I for one love (most of) it. But it will never make me feel like I did the first time I watched the Battle of Endor. And because I remember that feeling, I feel it every time I watch The Return of the Jedi.

So I watch the new stuff, and I enjoy it, and I love it, and I share it with my son, but I will never feel that nostalgia again, and that makes me sad.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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My view is that the initial Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, and Death Star story has always been a hard act for Star Wars to follow. So its interesting to see someone attempting to add to the young Luke with Yoda story more again. I might be interested in that if they came up with some new angle on it like has been tested with some of the Jedi-focused character development TV shows. Otherwise, for next Star Wars, I'd rather see more attention paid to the older Jedi vs Sith story again - build better historic backstory, build stronger lore, build more meaning, build higher stakes and further set the stage for the later Vader and Luke story and classic film era to come. The movies haven't quite achieved a level of classic grandeur in that backstory yet, IMHO. So I'd rather see Star Wars production budgets going there.
For me movies and shows are all about the writing, character development and the story..

IMHO. The first 3 stories were great. It was an example of great writing. The second 3 stories were good but felt forced. The rest was downhill from there, most of it absolutely sucked. The only semi bright spot in the entire franchise was some episodes of the Mandalorian. The first season was generally good. The second season was hit and miss, more bad than good.
 

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For me movies and shows are all about the writing, character development and the story..

IMHO. The first 3 stories were great. It was an example of great writing. The second 3 stories were good but felt forced. The rest was downhill from there, most of it absolutely sucked. The only semi bright spot in the entire franchise was some episodes of the Mandalorian. The first season was generally good. The second season was hit and miss, more bad than good.
Yes, but please keep in mind both Favraeu and Filoni distanced themselves from season two when they explained an enormous rewrite was forced on them last minute when Kathleen Kennedy fired Gina Carano. It’s not just that Carano’s Cara Dune had been included in season two, but that she was pivotal. They were writing Cara Dune as central with the expectation they would spin her off into the star of Rangers of the New Republic. Recall too, Rangers had been green lit by Kennedy until Kennedy fired Carano.

Considering that rewrite I think they both did pretty well and we should expect more goodness in season three. They didn’t run out of good ideas. Kennedy forced out their good ideas based upon political bigotry. She was all happy to have that particular female lead for Rangers until her bigotry got the best of her.

In short, Kennedy recognized Carano as the Star power she needed for the kind of strong female lead in Rangers, up until Carano proved she could not be manipulated and forced to present as Kennedy liked. That pissed her off and is conclusive evidence why Kennedy should be fired from Disney. She cares more about her social engineering than she does good storytelling.

All that said, I doubt whether Skeleton Crew is enough to save Star Wars. It’s for kids. To save Star Wars Disney needs not only a male lead whose face you can see, but probably that lead needs a light saber and a back story that is compelling. Disney has all this in Ezra Bridger, but Kennedy wants Bridger subservient to Ahsoka Tano.

Bridger is a big deal. If you are familiar with Rebels, you know this character has all it needs to draw huge audiences, and the actor is up to the task. Eman Esfandi has that perfect sense of comic beat. He has just the right grin. He’s playing a unique character with a fabulous back story and reasons to believe he can explode into a force-fed powerhouse. Side by side Ahsoka and Ezra can bring Star Wars back, if only the man-haters like Kennedy can be swept aside to let it happen.

And to Richard I would say, give the best of the new characters a chance. Rebels was by far the best Star Wars ever written. All the main characters were excellent but Ahsoka and Ezra are the best of the best. Their backstories are by far the best in the franchise. If you pick up Rebels at the library, sit down and binge watch, you will agree. Stuff in that series will make a grown man cry. It’s that good. If Disney had a clue they would drill down on Ezra and Ahsoka and together turn the franchise back into what it once was.
 
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The Star Wars we remember will never be achieved again. Now hear me out - it has nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with nostalgia. We revere the old Star Wars for the feeling it elicited when we watched it for the first time; some of us in theaters. The new SW could be the best in the world, but it will never, ever capture that nostalgia and feeling that the originals did. And that's ok. The new SW is good, some of it is great, and I for one love (most of) it. But it will never make me feel like I did the first time I watched the Battle of Endor. And because I remember that feeling, I feel it every time I watch The Return of the Jedi.

So I watch the new stuff, and I enjoy it, and I love it, and I share it with my son, but I will never feel that nostalgia again, and that makes me sad.

Just my 2 cents.
Reminds me of this from Spaced:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TX6x2WLgk


"What about the Ewoks? They were rubbish! You don't complain about them?"
 
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"What about the Ewoks? They were rubbish! You don't complain about them?"
Brilliant!
I wonder though if it is intentional that the kids looks from behind like the younger Han Solo from the spinoff?
Can't be because that was the turn of the millenium.
But maybe this was a foreshadowing?
The kids from "The Phantom Menace" grew up to be the perfect Disney victims!
That was Palpatine's plan all along!
Damn those Sith!

PS : Luke did respawn on Gazian it seems. But the account got corrupted and now he's locked under the surface. Service is informed and hopefully he's gonna be back one of these days.
PPS: 3rd trilogy. 3 movies. Only 1 memorable scene (though you might as well blame my aging brain)
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Yes, but please keep in mind both Favraeu and Filoni distanced themselves from season two when they explained an enormous rewrite was forced on them last minute when Kathleen Kennedy fired Gina Carano. It’s not just that Carano’s Cara Dune had been included in season two, but that she was pivotal. They were writing Cara Dune as central with the expectation they would spin her off into the star of Rangers of the New Republic. Recall too, Rangers had been green lit by Kennedy until Kennedy fired Carano.
Cara Dune was in Season 2. She was in, IMHO, the better episodes.

Season 3 was crap. It was kneecapped not just by the Carrano firing but also by the need to bring Grogu back early to try to save The Book of Boba Fet.
 

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I think there’s reason to believe bringing Grogu back was mostly a function of fan response. People didn’t want to see the relationship between him and Mando ended. Generally they liked that relationship more than Din Djarin. Which confirms my earliest judgement that you can’t leave your protagonist behind a helmet. It interferes with audience connection.
 

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I'm hoping that George buys his baby back & voids the last 3 main vids by having Luke wake up in his academy with all of the KK garbage content having been a horrible dream from having eaten something that really disagreed with him. A bit of the old hair of the dog & Luke's back to his old self with a massive load of KK being flushed from cannon forever.
 

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I'm hoping that George buys his baby back & voids the last 3 main vids by having Luke wake up in his academy with all of the KK garbage content having been a horrible dream from having eaten something that really disagreed with him. A bit of the old hair of the dog & Luke's back to his old self with a massive load of KK being flushed from cannon forever.
Well, we might as well simply re-programm a T800 and send him straight to the beginning of Episode 7.
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