Need help with an AMD build.

[Agent_Mothman]

I have not been technically competent enough to know what is good or bad when choosing new parts for a PC build for several years now.

It has been 10 years since I built a PC, and it's time to upgrade. I would like an AMD build this time, as I understand I can get more bang for my buck.

I already have a GTX 1070, that is only 2 years old, so I'm good there, Monitor, mouse, and keyboard are taken care of as well. I would like said build to work in a Corsair Carbide Series 740 High Airflow ATX case.

I will need SSD's, as I have a single 1TB HDD, and an older 250gb SSD I can use for the OS. I will need Win 10 Professional.

If anyone can make a pcpartpicker.com list for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Budget $1800 max

Thank you.

 

[Printimus]

How much you payin?

 

[Agent_Mothman]

How much you payin?

If someone is willing to make a good list, I'll buy them an Avenger.

 

[Agent_Mothman]

OK, UPDATE: Found a build on PCPartpicker, made some minor changes, anyone have any input on this build?

ComponentSelectionPriceCPU
AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
$329.89BuyCPU Cooler
Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
$106.89BuyMotherboard
ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard
From parametric filter

• Color: Black, Black / Gray, Black / Silver, Black / White, Silver, Silver / Black, White
• Form Factor: ATX
• Chipset: AMD X470
• RAM Slots: 4 - 16

$114.89BuyMemory
ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
From parametric filter

• Speed: DDR4-2800, DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200
• Type: 288-pin DIMM
• Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
• Heat Spreader: Yes
• Color: Black, Black/Gray, Black/Silver, Black/White, White, White/Gray, White/Silver

$104.99Buy
ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$109.99BuyStorage
ADATA - ULTIMATE SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
From parametric filter

• Capacity: 960 GB - 10000 GB
• Type: SSD

$112.99Buy
Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
From parametric filter

• Capacity: 3000 GB - 10000 GB
• Type: 7200RPM
• Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
• Form Factor: 3.5"

$82.64BuyCase
Corsair - Air 740 ATX Full Tower Case
$149.99BuyPower Supply
EVGA - 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
From parametric selection (show)
$83.10BuyOperating System
Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
$124.79BuyTotal:$1320.16

 

[Bruce]

it's time to upgrade.

How urgent is the time ? I dare to guess that just in a couple of months ( most probably before April ) AMD will announce Ryzen 3700X (or even maybe 3800X ) and time will come for real

 

[Bruce]

Also - you need 32 GB of RAM for real

 

[Agent_Mothman]

How urgent is the time ? I dare to guess that just in a couple of months ( most probably before April ) AMD will announce Ryzen 3700X (or even maybe 3800X ) and time will come for real

I posted a build I like above with 32GB of ram, probably a few months.

 

[FluffyVonRage]

Hope im not too late, but the one thing i really appreciated when i rebuilt my PC last week was getting 16GB RAM sticks instead of 8 Gb sticks - means you're not dropping kit you've already paid for when it comes time to upgrade. ( Not that i made that mistake at all)

Another minor change I'd suggest would be getting a motherboard with an M.2 PCIe card slot ( And card - they're basically small form SSD's, but with 4-5 times the transfer speed. I went from 2 minutes loading to 30 seconds, from a raided pair of SSD's) - definitely worth the £20 extra on the motherboard and £80 for the card.

I'll link my last build here, all the page is missing is a GPU.

 

[Agent_Mothman]

Hope im not too late, but the one thing i really appreciated when i rebuilt my PC last week was getting 16GB RAM sticks instead of 8 Gb sticks - means you're not dropping kit you've already paid for when it comes time to upgrade. ( Not that i made that mistake at all)

Another minor change I'd suggest would be getting a motherboard with an M.2 PCIe card slot ( And card - they're basically small form SSD's, but with 4-5 times the transfer speed. I went from 2 minutes loading to 30 seconds, from a raided pair of SSD's) - definitely worth the £20 extra on the motherboard and £80 for the card.

I'll link my last build here, all the page is missing is a GPU.

Updated to 16gb sticks.

 

[Sirus7264]

Make sure you don't stick to only PC part picker when buying parts for your computer. I suggest buying either a prebuilt with some major components in it or buying some parts off ebay Here are some examples of stuff to look for.

Corsair 16GBx2
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32GB-Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-PC4-24000-Dual-Memory-Kit-2-x-16GB/332724983928?hash=item4d77f45878:g:ZQUAAOSwuVZbT4zd(Corsair ftw)
Ryzen 2700x
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-3-8GHz-Eight-Core-YD170XBCAEWOF-Processor/173566549624?epid=235143806&hash=item28695f5e78:g:StEAAOSw1Ahbsmno
750 watt pw Gold
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-750-GQ-210-GQ-0750-V1-80-GOLD-750W-Semi-Modular-Power-Supply-EB3554/264053420296?epid=18022905304&hash=item3d7acf7108:g:jJgAAOSwCQxaw514

Other sources to check out would be Craigslist, Liquidation.com etc.

 

[Talonsbane]

@Agent_Mothman , I have to agree with @Bruce in that before you decide what you want to get, if you can afford to wait a little while, then you should wait to see what is revealed officially at CES in about a month. From what leaks I've seen, the Zen 2 (aka 3000 line) is supposed to be both powerful as well as affordable. That's honestly the best advice I can give at the moment if you are looking to get the best bang for your buck.

 

[Talonsbane]

Also, you can download the Windows OS installer for free that you save on a flashdrive that is over 16gb in size. Then you can purchase a legal authorization code for about $15 depending on where you get it & taxes. That's what I had to do recently when I had to replace my boot drive.

 

[Bruce]

looking at the build above I would warn against buying OEM windows version .. you never know what part you would need to replace, and replacing some of them could trigger re-activation needs which are pain in the arse with OEMs

 

[Agent_Mothman]

@[B]Sirus7264[/B], I only use PCPartPicker to list parts, and show compatibility, I'm that clueless as to tech these days, and beyond clueless about AMD.

@Bruce AND @Talonsbane Thank you for the advice about the windows installer.

 

[Talonsbane]

You're welcome @Agent_Mothman my friend. I'm always happy to help where I can & when I can. Ironically, I've been planning on building my girlfriend a new PC a part at a time as the funds are available so that she can also enjoy Star Citizen with me. So I've been deep diving in theory crafting as to how to best get her playing with a suitable PC for the most reasonable price. I will confirm that having at least 2x 16gb sticks of RAM will be best. Other than running Star Citizen, what other sorts of activities would you like for it to be able to do? (streaming, video editing, overclocking, etc) I ask because that would also help determine the parts.

 

[Agent_Mothman]

You're welcome @Agent_Mothman my friend. I'm always happy to help where I can & when I can. Ironically, I've been planning on building my girlfriend a new PC a part at a time as the funds are available so that she can also enjoy Star Citizen with me. So I've been deep diving in theory crafting as to how to best get her playing with a suitable PC for the most reasonable price. I will confirm that having at least 2x 16gb sticks of RAM will be best. Other than running Star Citizen, what other sorts of activities would you like for it to be able to do? (streaming, video editing, overclocking, etc) I ask because that would also help determine the parts.

Just gaming. I have a face for radio, and a voice for silent films.

 

[Lonewollf]

I just went through this sort of thing not too long ago. my origional specs were this (and could only run on low graphics).

MoBo: ASUS AMD3+ Sabertooth 990FX
CPU: AMD FX-8350 Black Edition 8 Core 4.2GHz
Cooler: CoolerMaster V8
Graphics: GeForce GTX 750 TI 2gb RAM: 16Gb


I just recently upgraded, after polling the audiance and a few "phone a friend"s....I picked up this from newegg.com for $513

MSI X370 Gaming Plus AM4 Mobo
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144030

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 SDRAM 3000
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852

AMD RYZEN 7 1700 8-Core 3.0GHZ
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113428

I also went to bestbuy and picked up a NVIDIA Geforce 1060 3GB Graphics for $150.....with all this, i'm able to run on medium with hardly any stutter/rubberband. Using the stock heatsync that came with the chipset. no overclocking.

 

[Michael]

I'm currently waiting for the next gen amd cpu. They shouldn't have "surprising gpu" in pipeline so vega 64 is a good card if you want to go full AMD.

 

[Deroth]

That looks like a SATA SSD, SATA SSDs performance is only marginally different from high performance SATA HDDs due to both hitting the max throughput SATA supports.
In order to see the SSD crazy performance you see people talking about you have to use either PCI (AIC) SSD or M.2 (over PCI) SSD.

 

[Bruce]

That looks like a SATA SSD, SATA SSDs performance is only marginally different from high performance SATA HDDs due to both hitting the max throughput SATA supports.

I have to politely disagree with your permission dear sir. The _main_ difference between SSD and HDD is in IOPS ... sequential read/write speeds that have a chance to saturate the interface are secondary (and in case you have crazy high numbers of random writes - optane 905p is much better choice than anything else so far :) )