ok maybe a silly question but...

[Garonman]

This is probably going to be a silly question but here goes. I recently saw someone selling an account that had a redeemer in the hanger and a redeemer as a buy back pledge. I'm wondering why he has 2 of the same ship, one melted and one in use. I had a crazy thought that is he melting one when he gets a buy back token for store credits and then using the token to get the other back in order to increase his spending on the account to eventually get concierge or does it not work that way?

As you can probably tell I'm not very clued in as to the workings of store credits etc.

thanks for reading my late night ramblings and thank you for any reply.

 

[AccidentProne8]

This is probably going to be a silly question but here goes. I recently saw someone selling an account that had a redeemer in the hanger and a redeemer as a buy back pledge. I'm wondering why he has 2 of the same ship, one melted and one in use. I had a crazy thought that is he melting one when he gets a buy back token for store credits and then using the token to get the other back in order to increase his spending on the account to eventually get concierge or does it not work that way?

As you can probably tell I'm not very clued in as to the workings of store credits etc.

thanks for reading my late night ramblings and thank you for any reply.

Nope, it just monitors your real dollar total spend. So he has the total spend for two (or just one, as I will explain below).

He probably either has credit, or if he didn't mention that, he may have bought something with that credit and transferred it out of the account. In this case, he should have two reclaimers worth of spend on the account, even if the money isn't there.

Or, he could have had a non-lti reclaimer and used ccus to get a single LTI reclaimer using the credits from the melted one, in which case he would have one reclaimer worth of spend.

In no cases would shuffling tokens and buybacks increase spend for him to get towards concierge (unless the price of the ship went up - I think that may influence buybacks but could be wrong).

Let me know if that makes sense to you!

 

[Sky Captain]

I'd add that its pretty easy to get more than one of the same ship like that. Imagine owning Ship 'A', turning it in for store credit, using the credit to buy cheaper Ship 'B', then not liking Ship B and using the CCU system to get Ship A back (for less cost than it would have taken to recover it buyback). Ship A will appear both in the hangar and in buyback in such a case.

 

[Vavrik]

I'd add that its pretty easy to get more than one of the same ship like that. Imagine owning Ship 'A', turning it in for store credit, using the credit to buy cheaper Ship 'B', then not liking Ship B and using the CCU system to get Ship A back (for less cost than it would have taken to recover it buyback). Ship A will appear both in the hangar and in buyback in such a case.

I've done exactly that, quite a few times. I sometimes do this with packages too. You can use this to reset ships in the package if you upgraded the wrong way or if the package is re-released with different options. You do need to watch what ships you have in packages though, that's how I ended up with 2 prospectors. One was stand alone, the other was hidden in a package I hadn't looked at for a while. Totally forgot it was there.

 

[Garonman]

Nope, it just monitors your real dollar total spend. So he has the total spend for two (or just one, as I will explain below).

He probably either has credit, or if he didn't mention that, he may have bought something with that credit and transferred it out of the account. In this case, he should have two reclaimers worth of spend on the account, even if the money isn't there.

Or, he could have had a non-lti reclaimer and used ccus to get a single LTI reclaimer using the credits from the melted one, in which case he would have one reclaimer worth of spend.

In no cases would shuffling tokens and buybacks increase spend for him to get towards concierge (unless the price of the ship went up - I think that may influence buybacks but could be wrong).

Let me know if that makes sense to you!

I understand now. Thank you so much for the reply. I will eventually understand all the ins and outs of the mechanics of the accounting system. I would have to try to find the account again but if I remember correctly he had 2 different purchase dates but both were 10 year insurance.

 

[Garonman]

I'd add that its pretty easy to get more than one of the same ship like that. Imagine owning Ship 'A', turning it in for store credit, using the credit to buy cheaper Ship 'B', then not liking Ship B and using the CCU system to get Ship A back (for less cost than it would have taken to recover it buyback). Ship A will appear both in the hangar and in buyback in such a case.

That is interesting. I will look into ways of working the pledge store to make some very nice savings. Thank you.

 

[Garonman]

I've done exactly that, quite a few times. I sometimes do this with packages too. You can use this to reset ships in the package if you upgraded the wrong way or if the package is re-released with different options. You do need to watch what ships you have in packages though, that's how I ended up with 2 prospectors. One was stand alone, the other was hidden in a package I hadn't looked at for a while. Totally forgot it was there.

I'll remember to keep a close eye on what is held with packages. No doubt I will probably get burned once in order to be more observant but I'll take this on board. Thank you.

 

[vahadar]

Store credit spending does not add to the spending ledger, only cash (Warbond) spending.

So if you reclaim an item bought with cash and buy it back / reclaim it over and over, it won't move your ledger at all besides the first time when you injected some fresh cash for that item.

 

[Scape]

We encourage silly questions!
There is far too much sense around here lately.

 

[Dirtbag_Leader]

Since nobody mentioned it yet, if you're doing any long-term fleet planning, start using the CCU game app! Make life WORLDS easier to see what you have, and plan the cheapest possible path to what you want, especially with IAE coming up shortly!

CCU Game - Star Citizen asset management and fleet planning

View your assets, the store and create optimal ccu chains automatically

ccugame.app

 

[Garonman]

We encourage silly questions!
There is far too much sense around here lately.

Haha.. down with rational thinking and logic and we demand more silly questioning.

 

[Garonman]

Since nobody mentioned it yet, if you're doing any long-term fleet planning, start using the CCU game app! Make life WORLDS easier to see what you have, and plan the cheapest possible path to what you want, especially with IAE coming up shortly!

CCU Game - Star Citizen asset management and fleet planning

View your assets, the store and create optimal ccu chains automatically

ccugame.app

Great shout. I'll look into this definitely. Thank you.