We've decided to move our "discussions" from the PDLMTC thread to a new one so we don't sully the purity of that thread with nonsense...:laughing:
Seriously though, I think we all need a place to put in our own $.02, share ideas, be heard, vent, rant, and generally feel better about the world.
Please remember we are all friends and even though we have differing opinions, there's no need for name calling or general rudeness. This should be a safe forum of discussion. That said, you will probably be offended by someone at some point, let's try to keep it amiable.
(Mods, if the thread gets too heated, let us know, perhaps we can dial it down instead of removing the post.)
So with that out of the way, here is the discussion so far...
Sorry for all the spoiler clicks, but we've tried to keep it contained in the other thread so others aren't forced to read. Please feel free to give input at your leisure!
Seriously though, I think we all need a place to put in our own $.02, share ideas, be heard, vent, rant, and generally feel better about the world.
Please remember we are all friends and even though we have differing opinions, there's no need for name calling or general rudeness. This should be a safe forum of discussion. That said, you will probably be offended by someone at some point, let's try to keep it amiable.
(Mods, if the thread gets too heated, let us know, perhaps we can dial it down instead of removing the post.)
So with that out of the way, here is the discussion so far...
Extremely charged political rant from me. Don't watch/read if you're even a little bit sensitive!
This 100%
Calling Trump voters racist/sexist is just whining. People need to take responsibility for their actions and Trump winning was a result of the Left alienating not only the Right, but those of the Middle and Left who try to sympathize with their group. Calling people privileged who aren't doing so well themselves just pisses them off!
I work extremely hard for what I have and being called privileged completely trivializes my sacrifices! When's the last time you agreed with someone and became their friend when they belittle you and ignore your hard work?
When someone tells me I'm privileged I think they're a whiny bitch that can't take care of themselves.
Calling people names and lumping them together with labels just because you THINK they're wrong or evil...is EXACTLY what racists and sexists do!
SJWs and Liberals are the new hate groups.
Calling Trump voters racist/sexist is just whining. People need to take responsibility for their actions and Trump winning was a result of the Left alienating not only the Right, but those of the Middle and Left who try to sympathize with their group. Calling people privileged who aren't doing so well themselves just pisses them off!
I work extremely hard for what I have and being called privileged completely trivializes my sacrifices! When's the last time you agreed with someone and became their friend when they belittle you and ignore your hard work?
When someone tells me I'm privileged I think they're a whiny bitch that can't take care of themselves.
Calling people names and lumping them together with labels just because you THINK they're wrong or evil...is EXACTLY what racists and sexists do!
SJWs and Liberals are the new hate groups.
The alienating is occurring on both sides (And not only in the US, but most places with two parties/groups of parties). No one is willing to discuss and make compromises anymore. A big part of a modern democracy is different parties getting together and putting forth a lot of different ideas and then pick the best idea for as many people as possible.
Side note: Why do Americans, the most proud to be liberal people on the planet, use "Liberal" to degrade people?
Side note: Why do Americans, the most proud to be liberal people on the planet, use "Liberal" to degrade people?
Here in the States, "liberal" and "conservative" are both used as insults and boasts. Neither of the terms are much used in relation to their actual meanings anymore, rather the terms are used colloquially to refer to the partisan political parties.
(Disclaimer: I do not intend the following as insults, but they easily will be taken as insults, especially given the topic.) The "liberals" here are less interested in liberty and more interested in equality. They tend to be more liberal with gov't spending on social projects. The "conservatives" are less interested in conservation and more interested in tradition, politically and often religiously. They tend to be more conservative with gov't intrusion into the economy (which, historically anyway, is a liberal tradition).
Often, our colloquialisms make it very confusing when trying to communicate with people in other countries. I imagine, from the outside looking in, it must make it rather difficult to understand what we Americans are going on about when we bicker internally, especially since we have a tendency to bicker very loudly.
(Disclaimer: I do not intend the following as insults, but they easily will be taken as insults, especially given the topic.) The "liberals" here are less interested in liberty and more interested in equality. They tend to be more liberal with gov't spending on social projects. The "conservatives" are less interested in conservation and more interested in tradition, politically and often religiously. They tend to be more conservative with gov't intrusion into the economy (which, historically anyway, is a liberal tradition).
Often, our colloquialisms make it very confusing when trying to communicate with people in other countries. I imagine, from the outside looking in, it must make it rather difficult to understand what we Americans are going on about when we bicker internally, especially since we have a tendency to bicker very loudly.
Sorry for all the spoiler clicks, but we've tried to keep it contained in the other thread so others aren't forced to read. Please feel free to give input at your leisure!
