ReddSquadron

[chrizz]

So ReddFaction is building their defense force "ReddSquadron".

http://www.reddit.com/r/eddfaction/comments/1xppyr/reddsquadron_is_officially_recruiting_join_today/

I believe this could be benefitial to us attending some basic training with ReddSquadron. We could become acquainted with the other dudes from Redd and learn some command structures. Especially for our pilots from Testbot's 501st it could be valuable.

What do you think?

I am planning to attend (at least once) to check it out.

 

[starkestrel]

The first Flight School classes for those outside of ReddSquadron should start the first of June. This should give ReddSquadron 6 weeks to build up the internal core competencies. This way we can enter day 1 of Persistent Universe with a large, competent body of pilots between active duty and reserves. It is my hope that every MO will want to send at least a fraction of its pilots to flight school for no other reason that to develop some kind of faction wide understanding of standard operating procedures/communications protocols.

It seems fairly clear that if you want to participate before they open Flight School for MOs, you're committing to be core ReddSquadron and a certain number of hours per month of dedicated service.

Given the ways they language and maintain themselves, I expect they're going to not take kindly to folks who want to just see what's going on. If for no other reason than to maintain some sense of control over spying. I'm not getting how they're expecting to maintain organizational discipline a good year+ before the game's even out, but the application to the unit includes an agreement to Terms of Service.

TEST Squadron could approach them about gaining access to Flight School sooner, if their enrollment numbers are down.

For myself, they're taking things rather more seriously than I want to engage with at this stage of the game, and most probably even once the game is released. I'm happy to serve as a TEST irregular helping out ReddFaction when I can, but I'm not able to volunteer for military service within the game in the ways these guys are structuring it.

All that said, if there are folks here who are drawn to that, there's certainly room in both TEST and the 501 for Squadron pilots who are part of both organizations and can liaison between the two. If you're drawn to what they're doing, go for it!

 

[chrizz]

you maybe right. on second sight they seem to be too "hardcore".

hail to the 501st !

 

[Shards]

How exactly do they plan on training without a game?

Leader on TS: "Ok guys, everyone imagine you are in formation"
Leader on TS: "Ok FIRE!"
10 people on TS: "PEW PEW PEW PEW"
Leader on TS: "Good job, you got him"

 

[Scarthian]

I am all for classes or training in some form because I am most likely going to be terribad at this game! I would rather it kind of be run by our guys within at least. I think it would help with knowing who to go to for the various aspects of the game or like the heads/fc's type of deal. Basically be able to build that base of "Omg I got no clue wtf im doing" "Oh hey I can go to someone like Testbot if I recall he mentioned dealing with this stuff in that class and he in in Test". From there then I branch off learning the rest of the mover and shakers of the larger faction. Basically it will help me to know who to go to within the Squadron first to tell me im dumb and then tell me how to be less dumb lol.

 

[SeungRyul]

IMHO I really don't have much respect for ReddSquadron. In fact their leader tried to "order" one of our leadership into becoming a lieutenant with them (so basically trying to steal our member).

 

[JoeCool4433]

How exactly do they plan on training without a game?

Leader on TS: "Ok guys, everyone imagine you are in formation"
Leader on TS: "Ok FIRE!"
10 people on TS: "PEW PEW PEW PEW"
Leader on TS: "Good job, you got him"

This in a nutshell.

I think that we have more than enough members to have our own flight school, and after reading what Seung said, fuck'em.

 

[SeungRyul]

This in a nutshell.

I think that we have more than enough members to have our own flight school, and after reading what Seung said, fuck'em.

Well not exactly fuck'em but yeah use them as cannon fodder for our Aurora Bombing Runs!

 

[Azurith]

It seems fairly clear that if you want to participate before they open Flight School for MOs, you're committing to be core ReddSquadron and a certain number of hours per month of dedicated service.

Given the ways they language and maintain themselves, I expect they're going to not take kindly to folks who want to just see what's going on. If for no other reason than to maintain some sense of control over spying. I'm not getting how they're expecting to maintain organizational discipline a good year+ before the game's even out, but the application to the unit includes an agreement to Terms of Service.

TEST Squadron could approach them about gaining access to Flight School sooner, if their enrollment numbers are down.

For myself, they're taking things rather more seriously than I want to engage with at this stage of the game, and most probably even once the game is released. I'm happy to serve as a TEST irregular helping out ReddFaction when I can, but I'm not able to volunteer for military service within the game in the ways these guys are structuring it.

All that said, if there are folks here who are drawn to that, there's certainly room in both TEST and the 501 for Squadron pilots who are part of both organizations and can liaison between the two. If you're drawn to what they're doing, go for it!

This

 

[JoeCool4433]

you maybe right.

He may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for.

Well not exactly fuck'em but yeah use them as cannon fodder for our Aurora Bombing Runs!

Fodder for the Fodder God....wait, wat?

 

[Shards]

Sometimes I really worry that those Reddfaction guys take this shit wayyyyyyyy too seriously.

 

[SeungRyul]

He may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for.



Fodder for the Fodder God....wait, wat?

Yes its obvious that their fleet of Idrises should certainly be used to protect higher priority targets like our Auroras.

 

[D-Rook]

REDD needs to stop taking themselves so seriously.

 

[Vapsyvox]

IMHO I really don't have much respect for ReddSquadron. In fact their leader tried to "order" one of our leadership into becoming a lieutenant with them (so basically trying to steal our member).

When and how?

 

[DominationAgenda]

When and how?

Vaps if you want somebody to do that for you, wouldn't you try to do it in secret?

 

[SeungRyul]

When and how?

Around 1 and a half month ago. We got our diplo guys on Redfaction and made it clear that no one in TEST Squadron takes orders from them :)

 

[JoeCool4433]

Around 1 and a half month ago. We got our diplo guys on Redfaction and made it clear that no one in TEST Squadron takes orders from them :)

VIVA LA RESISTANCE!

 

[starkestrel]

How exactly do they plan on training without a game?

Leader on TS: "Ok guys, everyone imagine you are in formation"
Leader on TS: "Ok FIRE!"
10 people on TS: "PEW PEW PEW PEW"
Leader on TS: "Good job, you got him"

Their training plan is clearly laid out: work in Diaspora and another game they cited until the DFM is released, and then switch operations over to DFM. They want to develop core tactics with core people and then open things up to Flight School for ReddFaction-affiliated Orgs.

Look, they're too hardcore for me as well, and I also think they're taking things too seriously, for my tastes. I have as much fun as the next person making fun of someone else, but I want to speak up about the making fun element. Part of what impresses me about TEST was in Montoya's original About Star Citizen and TEST Squadron writeup, where he delineated a day in SC within TEST. This is a game that will accommodate a vast array of playstyles, and TEST is an organization that seeks to make room for all of those playstyles.

We're clearly a group of folks who've been attracted by the goofy irreverence of TEST and we're certainly going to look side-eyed at folks who come at the game from a totally different perspective than us, but this plan of Redd Squadron's ain't all that bad, and I agree with chrizz's original statement: "basic training with ReddSquadron. We could become acquainted with the other dudes from Redd and learn some command structures. " Were we to be exposed to their stuff, we might keep some, and we might not use some. We may develop our own stuff. We may choose not to get involved in Flight School at all.

But, you know, if somebody wants to be in Redd Squadron and TEST, go for it. It would be nice to have a liaison. We don't need to make fun of them or you.

And if they do get a little too caught up in the military sim roleplay and you need to, definitely do say something to our leadership here. 'Cause nobody gets to tell us how to blow our own ships up, dammit.

 

[Scarthian]

I am all for working together and what not after all they are our brothers under RF and I would help them out any day. I definitely do not believe we should make an us vs. them mentality in anyway. As stated by others though despite being reddit bro's so far from what i've seen our culture diverges in a fairly significant way. Not to say I am not ready to put on my serious pants and get stuff done. In the end though I like the TEST culture because to me ya guys seem like dudes I can get on before or after work, have a beer, shoot the shit on comms while shooting shit in game. I for one play games to relax lol not a second job because that burns me out pretty quick. In the end though as I said I am all for classes and if folks are offering them I am up for listening in.

From their ad though their requirements make me a bit iffy even if they are not major one's. If i'm required to fly and die I'd rather it be beside my TEST bro's in the end. I say someone join up though learn their ways, "borrow" the information and bring it back to teach us. Become the teacher of the shiny eyed younglings only to kill us in the end. Something something Darkside!

 

[TestBot]

Good lord why is Reddfaction fracturing itself so much? I am genuinely worried for them.