SpaceX Catches Returning Superheavy Launch Booster

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Reminds me of all the years I was arguing with NASA’s senior engineering staff who kept saying SpaceX will never be able to create reusable rockets. Well, you certainly can’t do hard stuff if you believe you can’t do hard stuff. Shout out: eat shit, Bill Carson; and all the other overpaid trolls who used to refuel the Space Shuttle, and acted like know-it-alls for over a decade, cursing Musk as he did what they said daily he could not possibly do.
 

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It was amazing to see on the stream!
I didn't even know they were trying to do this, happened upon it by accident.
What's the benefit of doing it like this instead of "just" landing it? Is this a less risky way cos it can't fall over and such?
 

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The idea is that eventually, SpaceX will be able to speed up reuse by placing Starship directly on top again. The refurbishing will be reduced to mere hours. Keep in mind Musk wants to launch Starships in the hundreds per year. So very quick turn around for the booster is a must.
 
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It was amazing to see on the stream!
I didn't even know they were trying to do this, happened upon it by accident.
What's the benefit of doing it like this instead of "just" landing it? Is this a less risky way cos it can't fall over and such?
The engineering reason is weight. The Falcon 9 boosters have deployable legs, which are dead weight that need to be carried for the entire cycle and reduce potential payload. I imagine the legs needs for Superheavy would be huge. There may be other side benefits than looking incredibly cool :)

Edit: There is also the side benefit of holding it from the top with a much more stable structure, so yes, you are correct there!
 
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The engineering reason is weight. The Falcon 9 boosters have deployable legs, which are dead weight that need to be carried for the entire cycle and reduce potential payload. I imagine the legs needs for Superheavy would be huge. There may be other side benefits than looking incredibly cool :)

Edit: There is also the side benefit of holding it from the top with a much more stable structure, so yes, you are correct there!
Well and the other part of it is because, with SS being so heavy, the booster is jettisoned at point in the flight path in which it CAN still fly back to the launchpad. This is similar to how the two boosters on Falcon Heavy come back and land at the pads at the Cape, but in contrast to a 'normal' single Falcon 9 rocket, which is much too far downrange at staging, in which case they NEED the legs in order to be able to land it on that rolling and heaving recovery barge out in the ocean. But when you're ALWAYS able to return to the same fixed point on land, things get a bit easier and yeah you can do away with the added weight/complexity/etc. of the extra struts!
 

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There’s a crazy fight going on with FAA giving SpaceX shit for no reason. Their director lied to Congress about this and now he’s in trouble. Despite this, Starship 6 is due to launch soon, and will be the last of the v1.0 Starship series. V 2.0 starts with Starship 7, and will include the new V 3.0 Raptor engine which is higher performance as well as smaller, lighter and cheaper. It is easily the most advanced rocket engine in history. They 3D printed the thing from the super-alloy Inconel with tubes and channels built into the thrust cone, and now are able to produce these about 1/day.

Just astonishing.

I’m curious, anyone who has seen the booster capture vid, did you notice the three Starships lined up next to a building in the background? That kind of thing has never happened before either.

Now if Musk can just convince NASA to bag plans to return to the Moon and just push on to Mars!
 
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Its totally amazing what this company is doing it's literally adding +50 years of technological advancement in just 3 years.

It explains why my Tesla still has 92% battery life left after 10 years and 118,000 miles. Musk knows what he is doing.
 
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I know it may seem like 3 years, but Musk has been at this for about 20 years now. He almost lost the company and all his wealth in 2008, but finally had a successful test flight. Had that launch failed, there would be no SpaceX. It succeeded and NASA awarded him a billion dollar contract. All the investors turned up their noses. Tesla has been a challenge too.

A little thing about investors. They pretend they’re good at what they do, and they pretend they have a good record, but they always refer to investments they made that panned out, like 1/20. They don’t refer to the investments they pass on that do pan out. Successful startups average 200 meetings with investors before they finally land funding. That means on average, investors fail to recognize a good thing 99.5% of the time.

Fuck investors. Rant over.
 
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