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So far I learned EMPs are friendly fire and give you 4 hours in jail :D
Hmm I was wandering why no one use them against the Idris... I think you gave me the answare....

I've played the Fase 3 a couple of time so far, honestly I prefer the Fase 2. Fase 3 is justt combat, with a lot of pew pew to bigger target that are fun to get blown off but thats it... not much of a difference compared to a hight level BH mssions, Fase 2 instead had more dinamic, with player fighting tto secure ares, FRS action to clean and secure the reliscs, natural accuring collaboration of player working togheter to load cargo ships as fast as possibile... a way more dinami and fresh experience.

Also while Fase 2 was really accessibile even to new and non fighting players, Fase 3 could be more scaring for those kind and it really appeal only to the fighter pilots or the players intersting in ship-to-ship combat activity...
 

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Hey Kids!

What are the best current size 2 and 3 missiles? Dominators for size 2? And what for 3?
 
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Got to test out my 'Tali today.
Upgraded all the turrets, the S3s have Attritions, and S2s have the Domion II scatter lasers. Lemme tell ya, that 'Tali is a tough bish with gunners on board.

Lock onto an Idris at about 5km+ out (50km is max lock range), then sweep inside the 2km range before firing them off. Gunners were holding off the fighters and working on the shields of the Idris before torp launch, and launching in that close gives minimum time for them to target the torps.

Was alot of fun to just fly and fire the torps, and let the gunners worry about defense. Also, those Fullstop stock shields hold up really well.

But frankly, I gotta give mad props to the gunners, they did a hell of a job.
 

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Oh by the way have we tried to kill the xenothreats with just auroras yet?

I think it would be interesting thing to test for science porpoises.
 

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Oh by the way have we tried to kill the xenothreats with just auroras yet?

I think it would be interesting thing to test for science porpoises.
Sadly we need to reserve this experiment for another occasion: XenoThreat event is now over:

View: https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1360974778673291264


Please note the final sentence:

"Although residents are urged to exercise caution, the local governments of Stanton system have eased some of the lockdown restrictions on travel"
 

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Son of a bitch, they ended that pretty fast. Shit. Didn't have a chance to get in for phase 3
Well you don't miss that much on FASE 3: the area was flodded with Tally so S9 torp spam was a common thing so that the whole even end in like 10 min.
Most of the time the Jav never shows up since the event resolution was too quick.

If you take the Eckart missions on the Arlington gang you'll basilically end up in the same combatt situation, they just aren't call XenoThreat...
 

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Well you don't miss that much on FASE 3: the area was flodded with Tally so S9 torp spam was a common thing so that the whole even end in like 10 min.
Most of the time the Jav never shows up since the event resolution was too quick.

If you take the Eckart missions on the Arlington gang you'll basilically end up in the same combatt situation, they just aren't call XenoThreat...
But do you make the same kinda money?
 
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But do you make the same kinda money?
Errr... yes and no...
In FASE 2 payout was shared across all partecipant, so you'll get payment even if all you have done was moving boxes and that was great becouse keep engaged even new player or people that are not into combat. In addition while you ware repelling the XenoThreat Idris at Jericho station payment bar was going up for very damage inficled even to Idris shields, add this to the shared payment and you'll end up with 2500aUEC every few seconds. Personally during one FASE 2 I've ended up with about 600k since there was a lack of torp and the Idris keep soaking damage with the shield and so the payment keep filling and the cash flow...😊

In FASE 3 instead payout was personal, so your payment bar progress only based on the damage that YOU inflict to the Xeno Idris and only for actual damage, shield doesn't count.
Escort fighter payout a negletable amount, about as much as a standard "call to arms" mission with the eception that only the confirmed kill payed out, so if a random guys shoot you target down he got payed, not you.
BUT if you ware piloting a torp ship (Eclipse or Retalliator basically) you'll end up with a freaking amount of money since every S9 torp that hit the Idris will basically grant you a big sum (and landing a hit wasn't that difficult...), but in any other case you'll everage pay count was stopping at around 30-35k considering the whole mission (single escort taken down and final payment).
For comparison I see in chat several player claiming they had raised 600-900k per event.

I've done FASE 3 event a couple of time, but considering how boring it was associeted with the low payout for non torp ships and the hight risk of getting a crime stat do to other players cutting trought you line of fire I quicly move back to ROC mining: less problem more payment (a lot more payment in fact).
 
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Phase 3 only brought about 30k + some bonus payments and ran roughly every hour, so not that much for the payout, compared to the earlier stages.
Rog. Thanks man.
Errr... yes and no...
In FASE 2 payout was shared across all partecipant, so you'll get payment even if all you have done was moving boxes and that was great becouse keep engaged even new player or people that are not into combat. In addition while you ware repelling the XenoThreat Idris at Jericho station payment bar was going up for very damage inficled even to Idris shields, add this to the shared payment and you'll end up with 2500aUEC every few seconds. Personally during one FASE 2 I've ended up with about 600k since there was a lack of torp and the Idris keep soaking damage with the shield and so the payment keep filling and the cash flow...😊

In FASE 3 instead payout was personal, so your payment bar progress only based on the damage that YOU inflict to the Xeno Idris and only for actual damage, shield doesn't count.
Escort fighter payout a negletable amount, about as much as a standard "call to arms" mission with the eception that only the confirmed kill payed out, so if a random guys shoot you target down he got payed, not you.
BUT if you ware piloting a torp ship (Eclipse or Retalliator basically) you'll end up with a freaking amount of money since every S9 torp that hit the Idris will basically grant you a big sum (and landing a hit wasn't that difficult...), but in any other case you'll everage pay count was stopping at around 30-35k considering the whole mission (single escort taken down and final payment).
For comparison I see in chat several player claiming they had raised 600-900k per event.

I've done FASE 3 event a couple of time, but considering how boring it was associeted with the low payout for non torp ships and the hight risk of getting a crime stat do to other players cutting trought you line of fire I quicly move back to ROC mining: less problem more payment (a lot more payment in fact).
Good info. Also makes me think about the viability of that tali. I flew with a couple randoms as a gunner on some dudes Tali, and that was fun. May be worth adding one to the fleet. What size torps does the Eclispe unleash?
 

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Rog. Thanks man.

Good info. Also makes me think about the viability of that tali. I flew with a couple randoms as a gunner on some dudes Tali, and that was fun. May be worth adding one to the fleet. What size torps does the Eclispe unleash?
Eclipse is same as the Tali, S9's. Just it brings only 3 to the fight while the Tali has 6. I made the most off the run where I was in a Tali.
 
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And aren't they almost the same price?
Depends on the Torpedo. They both have stock of Argos IXs. Though for 100 or so cred each, you can go with the Typhoon IXs, which hit for about 10k more damage, have just over double the speed of the Argos and a longer lock on range.
 
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And aren't they almost the same price?
Depends on the Torpedo. They both have stock of Argos IXs. Though for 100 or so cred each, you can go with the Typhoon IXs, which hit for about 10k more damage, have just over double the speed of the Argos and a longer lock on range.
Just a note on pricing, so that you don't get too excited about earning a lot of creds with spending a little. I recall CIG said they will review the cost of ammo, and especially torpedoes, as currently they cost almost nothing. I won't be surprised if in future a s9 torpedo comes with a 10k price tag on it, so that it's quite costly to arm a Retaliator or Eclipse. This would make sense in light of large payouts for damaging capital ships, and using torps on small targets would make no economic sense.
 

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Depends on the Torpedo. They both have stock of Argos IXs. Though for 100 or so cred each, you can go with the Typhoon IXs, which hit for about 10k more damage, have just over double the speed of the Argos and a longer lock on range.
Roger roger. I may have to check this out. Thank you.
Just a note on pricing, so that you don't get too excited about earning a lot of creds with spending a little. I recall CIG said they will review the cost of ammo, and especially torpedoes, as currently they cost almost nothing. I won't be surprised if in future a s9 torpedo comes with a 10k price tag on it, so that it's quite costly to arm a Retaliator or Eclipse. This would make sense in light of large payouts for damaging capital ships, and using torps on small targets would make no economic sense.
I'll keep this in mind. Having a bomber was never in my mind, but being able to damage a big boy may come in handy.

What size torps does the Harby come with?

Edit: Size 5. Just. Had. To. Look. It was right there in front of me, lol
 
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