TESTies, what national monuments do you find impacted you the most?

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Hail fellow TESTies! I recently went to Arlington National Cemetery to visit a friend of mine who lost his life to an IED attack and I am now interested in hearing from y'all. What particular national monuments have you visited that left an impact on you? I have always enjoyed my nations capital, but every time I visit the place that our fallen have been buried it reminds me why I began the path I am currently on. We have a lot of different peoples represented in TEST and i'm interested in hearing from y'all.

PS. I have not slept in 2-3 days, I don't remember, so pls ignore the rambling nature of this.
 

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The Konzentrationslager Dachau was shocking and left a long lasting impression on me for sure.
Also Yad Vashem was impressive but in my personal experience the Konzentrationslager was so extremely grueling that it was more impactful


Not sure if that falls in the category you are thinking about.
 
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Dunno if it is considered a National Monument, but I have visited numerous retired battleships throughout the United States. Those monsters and their capabilities and fire-power they possessed during their prime absolutely blows my mind. Makes me wonder why we ever retired them.
 

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Okay this is a fail shit post but the US national monument that had the LEAST affect on me was "Mount Rushmore". Do not go nothing there miles from anywhere worth seeing, was done in ten minutes and had long drive there and after.

I am not overly keen on national monuments (sorry controversial), nationalism just seems to encourage war. War is little people dieing for the benefit of the higher ups.
 

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Dunno if it is considered a National Monument, but I have visited numerous retired battleships throughout the United States. Those monsters and their capabilities and fire-power they possessed during their prime absolutely blows my mind. Makes me wonder why we ever retired them.
It was a difficult choice, but the last of the true US Battleships, the US Iowa class; was designed around being able to take a hit. It does not have the most guns nor as many of them as some other battleships, but it has an extraordinary damage control capability that went into no other class I am aware of. It was the rocky of surface warfare--"it matters more you can take a hit than how hard you hit". The Iowa class was designed to be able to survive any surface warfare conflict, and if naval warfare were still mostly surface, it would have a place.

Unfortunately, modern anti-ship missiles like the Exocet made Battleships obsolete in the late 60's, just as modern shoulder-launched anti-armor weapons made tanks obsolete in the 80's. They are just big targets now. The Iowa class USS New Jersey was pulled out of mothballs back during the Reagan era, and hammered a shore target mercilessly during the Lebanese civil war. There is just nothing like those big guns anymore. The Black Dragon (USS New Jersey) was the last of its kind. Missiles change everything.

BTW, the reason the SR-71 Blackbird was never turned into the planned Blackbird Bomber, and the reason the XB-70 Valkyrie was never produced as the B-70 (planned by Kennedy), was because of missiles. ICBM's made wings of bombers obsolete, especially since missiles cost much less and are far harder to shoot down. Missiles change everything, from the way fighter-jets fight, to whether we should build tanks, to how we select and support airfields and bases around the world.
 

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Unfortunately, modern anti-ship missiles like the Exocet made Battleships obsolete in the late 60's, just as modern shoulder-launched anti-armor weapons made tanks obsolete in the 80's. They are just big targets now. .
I partially disagree with this. In my brief experience conducting training in joint armor-infantry scenarios, tanks are fearsome on the battlefield. Alone they can be rather ineffective, but in proper combined-arms scenarios they provide a great deal of support to infantry. They key is having the infantry support the armor and vice-versa.
 

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I partially disagree with this. In my brief experience conducting training in joint armor-infantry scenarios, tanks are fearsome on the battlefield. Alone they can be rather ineffective, but in proper combined-arms scenarios they provide a great deal of support to infantry. They key is having the infantry support the armor and vice-versa.
Tanks were astonishingly effective during Desert Storm, but US Army has been trying to get the USG to stop building tanks for more than 30 years, because the US has plenty and the shoulder mounted weapons make them less survivable than they once were. Fact is, the only reason USG builds new tanks each year is that the jobs created by building them are protected politically by the local Congressmen and Senators. This is the same that has happened with the SLS, Orion, and a host of other NASA projects that should have been abandoned a decade ago. 16 years and $20B and we still have no rocket nor capsule. It is shameful what we put up with in the US. Aerospace and defense projects are just seen as employment programs.

This is the kind of sick, twisted nonsense DOD has had to put up with from the f&%king politicians here in the US for decades.

But just saying, building the Valkyrie would have been mega-cool! That was an amazing bird! Missiles killed it. Missiles kill everything, especially when fired from a Vanguard.
 
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My favorite is the Peace Arch that stands between the US and Canada. The gates under the Arch are welded to the walls with a sign saying "may these gates never be closed".
Haven't heard of that one yet. Gonna have to visit is during my ne
Tanks were astonishingly effective during Desert Storm, but US Army has been trying to get the USG to stop building tanks for more than 30 years, because the US has plenty and the shoulder mounted weapons make them less survivable than they once were.
That is different than them being useless in combat. But you are definitely correct, we have more than enough, both active and in long term storage at our boneyards.
 

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On every Museum ship, usually in the NCO Mess, as well as a most O Club's is a POW/MIA table setting - hits me in the feels every time.

Actually welled up a tear or two just typing about it.

That and the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (the Wall) in DC - my family was fortunate that everyone who went over came back (4 uncles, my Dad 4F'd) but that wall and the emotion on display is astonishing. And of course Arlington.

Damn allergies, my eyes are leaking.

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On every Museum ship, usually in the NCO Mess, as well as a most O Club's is a POW/MIA table setting - hits me in the feels every time.

Actually welled up a tear or two just typing about it.

That and the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (the Wall) in DC - my family was fortunate that everyone who went over came back (4 uncles, my Dad 4F'd) but that wall and the emotion on display is astonishing. And of course Arlington.

Damn allergies, my eyes are leaking.

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I get the same way around those monuments. DC can be a rather... emotional place.
 
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I am not sure if it's a national monument, but the Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial made me cry. When I saw those "little chairs"... (if you have been there you probably know what I mean.

The Vietnam Vets Memorial was another tear-jerker. When I was there, I was half way through the memorial, when suddenly in a field next door to the memorial was a rehearsal going on, and the singer rehearsed Amazing Grace, and she was awesome. I had to hurry through, as I couldn't take that combination, it broke me down. Talk about timing...
 
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White Sands National Monument in NM, and the Trinity site. Deep into my bones I felt the power of world destruction there. A turning point for humanity as we know it, a conflagration beyond imagination was born and put into the control of dumbasses like you and I. It's terrifying to think about.
 

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White Sands National Monument in NM, and the Trinity site. Deep into my bones I felt the power of world destruction there. A turning point for humanity as we know it, a conflagration beyond imagination was born and put into the control of dumbasses like you and I. It's terrifying to think about.
"I hath become death, the destroyer of worlds."
 

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I don't know the name but there's one near my town for WWII soldiers who were killed and it's always immaculate with fresh flowers on it year round. Every time I see it I think just how much effort people are putting into it to make sure it's well decorated and clean and it makes me smile knowing their lives meant that much to us that we still remember them daily.
 
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Not quite a monument, however Lincoln Cathedral in the UK is a pretty unique place to be when you realise it was built 929 years ago.

To put that in perspective, its a building you can go in that has been about just one year less than than the time between now and when Star Citizen is set 930 years in the future. Can you imagine it?
 
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