Well that part is easy. It's 1000 liters of beer. That's precious cargo right there!
Cargo haulers will probably get nerfed
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Jesus. All I need is a 500 SCU ship and I'm good for a couple weeks.
SoloFlyer
Grand Admiral
SCU = sobriety cancellation units?
Well, the Endeavour has 500 SCU... And
If the shoe fits! Why not!
Sorry.... had to do some um, grammar corrections. Yeah that's it.. grammar..
Seems legit. Guess I'll be buying a beerfarer . . .again.
Sweet. Gunna party like it's 1999.
Damn, I'm already cringing at the thought of the hangover.
I once tried to stave off a hangover for a week, buy staying drunk for 7 days... it didn't work. I both got the hangover, and couldn't stay awake more than 3 days.
Gagarin-61
Rear Admiral
I don't now if they're going to get nerfed per se, but I do suspect that everything in terms of these kinds of capacity and power mechanics will get some kind of rebalance now that CIG is starting to zero in on (somewhat) complete metrics. Especially with older concepts that had a whole lot more hand wavery involved in their pitches than even what we're used to today.
The BMM has always had a huge cargo capacity, so I can see why they may want to tune it a bit as compared to more dedicated haulers like the Hull C.
The BMM has always had a huge cargo capacity, so I can see why they may want to tune it a bit as compared to more dedicated haulers like the Hull C.
First of all they compare the Hull A to a Mustang or a Aurora in which a Hull A carries considerably more SCU than both of those even if they change it in the future its going to be considerably more, if your gonna compare a Freelancers, Cutlass's and other medium size ships you have to do it with the Hull B which also carries considerably more even if they drop the value it will be more, I also think this is why they are right when they project a price hike because its cheaper than the alternatives.
I also think its in part about immersion when it comes to the Hull series, if you read the descriptions it talks about Hull A being a ferry for station to orbit use and the Hull B is talked about being a corporate support ship, so I think the intended roles of these ships vs something like a Freelancer which can much more than simply haul cargo is more target specific and the people who opt for a Hull over another ship with similar cargo space does it for those reasons. Just my 2 cents. :P
And there is also the whole ship mass and makeup that effect fuel and distance etc... that comes into play where a Hull series should out perform a similar size ship just because its designed to do one thing haul cargo.
I also think its in part about immersion when it comes to the Hull series, if you read the descriptions it talks about Hull A being a ferry for station to orbit use and the Hull B is talked about being a corporate support ship, so I think the intended roles of these ships vs something like a Freelancer which can much more than simply haul cargo is more target specific and the people who opt for a Hull over another ship with similar cargo space does it for those reasons. Just my 2 cents. :P
And there is also the whole ship mass and makeup that effect fuel and distance etc... that comes into play where a Hull series should out perform a similar size ship just because its designed to do one thing haul cargo.
Can't be hungover if you never stop drinking...
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
That is the description of the Mercury Star Runner.
Hahah and hangovers now are far worse then they were in my 20's.
I feel like this sounds like a good idea, in theory...
I'm getting a sense of deja vu.
Thanks for the response, apologies I didn't make it clear that I was partially theorycrafting there.
At the moment we are in the early implementation and indeed it is 100 units per SCU however you can purchase units in a little as 1, They will just go in a SCU box and rattle around a bit. Knowing this game for the scope it intends to have and that almost every other game with cargo as a mechanic takes the size of a unit into account, even if it is a rather simplistic Small, Medium, Large or "this item = 5 Cargo per unit", I don't expect SC to be any less rigorous with cargo considering they are going as far as to take velocities into account with balistic ship weapons to make sure the amount of damage a bullet does to ship armour is + 1000m/s if the target is advancing on you at that speed and -1000m/s if the target is moving away from you at that speed.
For example:
Mugs and plates. Both these items are available to pick up and carry around in the 'Verse right now.
- Taking a dinner plate from my cupboard, it is just under 1cm tall and 30cm wide. We can get 100 plates in a meter tall stack with a little left over and can have 9 stacks in a meter square. 900 plates in total in an SCU.
- Taking a mug from my cupboard, it is 10cm wide and 10cm tall. We can have 10 mugs in a stack and 100 stacks. 1000 mugs in an SCU.
Here is a spreadsheet showing the difference between the two, and what would happen if you only put 100 of each in an SCU:
It'd be really wild if you could cross-populate a SCU, but i think that would be over-complicating things:
Also, items larger than 1SCU are going to be one unit, but multiple SCU. Small class components are going to be person carryable. Large and Capital Ship components are going to be larger than a person can carry. You have 20 Large class coolers to get over to the Drake shipyards, you're going to need something bigger than Cutlass to shift them those. To put a number on it, lets say a large class cooler is 2 meters long by 2 meters tall by 2 meters wide, that's going to be one unit at 8 SCU.
I will happily concede that I have no idea where cargo may eventually go and it may stay as it is if it is determined not to be a priority mechanic that would benefit from the resources it would take to get this in place.
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Wherever a TESTie finds the Ambergris, they have found a warm welcome.
I have recently taken up a Starfarer, The Murderers Child, there are no official details on the tank capacity as yet that I can find but according to a Wiki she has 3321 cargo capacity. The cargo bay is 291SCU which will obviously be filled with snacks, so that leaves 3030 for the tanks, or 505 cargo per tank.
If that is the meter square SCU cargo rating, and it's 505000 liters per tank, six of those make 3,030,000 liters... that's three million and thirty thousand.
Or in UK 568ml pints: 5,332,055.
Or in US 473ml pints: 6,403,530.
I forgot where I was going with this.
Why are USA pints smaller?
Because the US gallon is based on the wine gallon, 231 cubic inches. It was a British unit of measure in the 18th century. You know what happened during the second half of that century? Well after that they never got told that the gallon was standardizing to 10 pounds of water... or they didn't feel like listening.
Ok, so I'll clone myself, and one of me will hang out on the Ambergris and one on the Beerfarer. Seems legit.
Wait. Then there'll be two of me, drinking twice as much beer. Shit.
Thanks for the info, Interesting stuff.
Who knew a couple of hundred years later it would result with one person getting a bigger drink than another?
Unfortunately for Canada, we get served American pints. It breaks my heart. I mean, we are the loyalists! Why'd we get saddled with smaller pints. It's not fair!
You might need to set your bar straight. There are potentially hefty fines for not serving an Imperial pint in favor of a US pint.(the News version contains a link to the legislation) Basically if it's a "pint" make it a real pint.
Pint Or Punishment: This Law Can Fine Bars That Underpour
If a pub stiffs you, you can file a complaint with Measurement Canada.
Son of a bitch. Who knew! Now that I'm looking at it, I think I was wrong. In bars, we get 20oz pints, which is an imperial pint.You might need to set your bar straight. There are potentially hefty fines for not serving an Imperial pint in favor of a US pint.(the News version contains a link to the legislation) Basically if it's a "pint" make it a real pint.
Pint Or Punishment: This Law Can Fine Bars That Underpour
If a pub stiffs you, you can file a complaint with Measurement Canada.www.huffingtonpost.ca
I was speaking to the pint cans we buy in Ontario, which are 473ml, or 1us pint.
Thats cool but what a Canadia Pint is even lower at 455ml? No wonder they are using the 20 fl oz.You might need to set your bar straight. There are potentially hefty fines for not serving an Imperial pint in favor of a US pint.(the News version contains a link to the legislation) Basically if it's a "pint" make it a real pint.
Pint Or Punishment: This Law Can Fine Bars That Underpour
If a pub stiffs you, you can file a complaint with Measurement Canada.
"What did the Empire ever do for us?"
*Pours a pint* "Enjoy, my friend!"