AI kick butt of pro fighter pilot

[Tei]

In a 5 to 0 sweep, an AI ‘pilot’ developed by Heron Systems beat one of the Air Force’s top F-16 fighter pilots in DARPA’s simulated aerial dogfight contest today.

Watched video (link in article), pretty interesting stuff.

 

[Montoya]

Is there any doubt that AI drones can out do any pilot?

Its basically an aimbot that never worries about blacking out from too many G's.

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

Very interesting and not at all surprising. I could not work out in the article was this in a training flight sim or did they load the AI into an F16 and they performed this test in Real Life skies?

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My thoughts on Combat AI, because no one asked:

Humans make mistakes and are limited to their life experiences in making observations and forming perceptions to then act upon.

I've seen weapons POV footage of an attack helecopter eviscerating a whole crowd of people because one of them was a photojournalist with a camera with a long tube-like lens which the (human) pilot thought was a ground to air missile launcher. In hindsite an obvious mistake, however 20+ people no longer exist because one mans judgement of a situation was not correct and he shot a group of dudes all full of holes.

But that was just one man. Had another pilot been rota'd in to patrol that day and been in the same position, would he have made the same mistake? Would another pilot who in their down time owned and used that type of camera recreationally, have seen a camera or a missile launcher? Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not.

A valid concern with granting the power of life and death to a mass-produced intelligence system is with cookie-cutter ability, judgement and execution of action, if there is a flaw in that ability, even if it is a justifiable mistake as with the helicopter pilot, that misconception isn't just in one individual - it's the entire production run of potentially many thousands of individuals. And you thought the Boing 737 Max issue was a biggie?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOUFdQmLVR8


I am not anti AI, I believe there is great potential for human/AI coexistence. But as demonstrated by these excellent abilities, if an intelligence is good enough to be as pinpoint accurate in regard to lethality, I dearly hope it would be able to perform, and choose to perform, its function in a less lethal manner... Although I do say that in regard to Human intelligence as well as machine, because (to quote Guy Martin) when you dead, you dead. If AI's are to be permitted to learn and grow and expand, and also possess the power to end another sentient intelligent individuals existence, an important lesson for them as well as every human being, is that due to their learning and experiences every individual both meat and machine is unique and once gone is gone permanently and irreversibly.

 

[DirectorGunner]

Skynet is nigh :3

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

Skynet is nigh :3

From what I heared the nukes still run on Floppy Disks so we'd better hope Skynet is 1.44mb or less if we want Judgement Day.

 

[Tei]

Very interesting and not at all surprising. I could not work out in the article was this in a training flight sim or did they load the AI into an F16 and they performed this test in Real Life skies?

It was in simulator, pilot flew in VR.
Definitelly AI was more in it's element in this setup ;)

But it was interesting to see semifinals between 4 AI teams, different strategy, different strenghts and weaknesses, and how those were incorporated against different opponents.
winner was fighting pilot.

 

[Bambooza]

Is there any doubt that AI drones can out do any pilot?

Its basically an aimbot that never worries about blacking out from too many G's.

At first I thought so to but the more I thought about the more I was impressed by this. Its one thing to simply attempt to steer the plane towards the current targets location its another thing to realize in a dog fight you have to anticipate where the target will be so that you can position yourself on an intercept course due to planes inertia and speed. Its not enough to be reactionary you have to read your opponint and understand what they are going to do next so you can move to take advantage of it. This is the evolution of the AI playing chess.

 

[wmk]

AlphaDogfight is the first stage of the DARPA and USAF Air Combat Evolution program (ACE), that would eventually put AI in the cockpits of the real military aircraft, fighters and bombers, and/or unmanned vehicles. ACE project management is coordinating their work with "hardware" programs, incl. DARPA’s Gremlins drone swarming initiative, USAF Skyborg wingman drone project, and Autonomy Capabilities Team 3 (ACT3), working on the autonomous aircraft that can take down a manned plane in air-to-air combat. We expect to start seeing some strange autonomous or semi-autonomous combat aircraft in the air in 2024.

 

[Han Burgundy]

Meatbags suffer the fatal flaw of relying on all that wet squishy stuff. Flipping a 46G turn to strafe an opponent isn't really in the cards for Mr. Tom Cruise...

 

[Mich Angel]

That dogfight test was stupid and one sided...!

The test was like having two paintball team fight in a arena and one team know exactly where their opponent are at all time before it start and the other team only if seen visual.

Or like a election where one is already set with all information to win and the other not and have to get it as he proceed, it set a unwinnable situation against the one with all info.

Pointless test IMO, sure it show that Ai have evolved and can perform if all parameter is known, let it learn the parameter as it come in to a hostile situation and see how that go.

So what's new about it, it really don't show anything. except that combat flight simulator can be very challenging and fun.ha ha.



CHEERS!

Side note: We who play DCS already seen unbeatable Ai if you set it to max performance and human pilot need to stick to the rule-book of engagement player lose.

Once the player start to be unpredictable and skip follow the rule of engagement like the Ai does then the Ai lose