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...park one violently into a planet/building/space station...
I love this phrasing! From on there will be no crashing, just simply violent parking!

I can imagine it now:

*Bored Gamer chats stuff while in a stationary X85 near Olisar*
*Aurora smashes into it with maximum destruction*
*A moments silence*
Bored Gamer: "That was TESTs new 'Over Enthusiastic Docking Maneuver' wasn't it?"
 

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Hmmm...

Database Reset: YES
Long Term Persistence: Enabled
That's just for the PTU, right? Like, that's no indication on whether or not the eventual LIVE will have a wipe?
Also, wth does database reset with long term persistence even mean? Those seem to be kinda contradictory?
 

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Hmmm...
That's just for the PTU, right? Like, that's no indication on whether or not the eventual LIVE will have a wipe?
Also, wth does database reset with long term persistence even mean? Those seem to be kinda contradictory?
Don't warry about that, for past experience the "Database reset" means that the mission progress and reputation are wiped: it also happen at the release of 3.10.1 and basically in every release....
of course that doen't mean that CIG won't wipe the whole LTP Db either... and frankly as fas as I'll be pissed off by loosing like 3 ship I've bought in-game, that could be a possible solution for all the inventory problem there are right now IMHO...
 

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I love this phrasing! From on there will be no crashing, just simply violent parking!

I can imagine it now:

*Bored Gamer chats stuff while in a stationary X85 near Olisar*
*Aurora smashes into it with maximum destruction*
*A moments silence*
Bored Gamer: "That was TESTs new 'Over Enthusiastic Docking Maneuver' wasn't it?"
In Canada, with all the ice and snow in the winter (from Sept 'til Aug) we park violently all the time. It's an art.
 

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In Canada, with all the ice and snow in the winter (from Sept 'til Aug) we park violently all the time. It's an art.
Those bus drivers look very experienced in the art of "retroactively repositioning" parked vehicles so they can park there too.
 

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In Canada, with all the ice and snow in the winter (from Sept 'til Aug) we park violently all the time. It's an art.
Hmm I'll espect places with that kind of climate to have a better organization for dealing with ice and snow... like salt and sand on streed, proper whinter tire, chain... driver capable of keeping the car in line...
I think Montoya make a good decision to move to Canada: looks like the proper TEST country!!
 

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Hmm I'll espect places with that kind of climate to have a better organization for dealing with ice and snow... like salt and sand on streed, proper whinter tire, chain... driver capable of keeping the car in line...
I think Montoya make a good decision to move to Canada: looks like the proper TEST country!!
Yeah except where @Montoya lives in Canada doesn't experience winter like the rest of the country. Where @Blind Owl lives, winter is like Moscow, or just north of Moscow. No chains or studded tires are allowed in his area. I used to live a bit north east of where he's living, and can tell you that picture was taken either below -30C or after plowing but before salting. Otherwise it would be ice with holes in it for "traction", not snow. All of the vehicles you see are using winter rated tires (could be all season radial's in the smaller vehicles). The bus is using winter tires, and he was driving too fast for the conditions. Supposed to be something you learn in your first winter.
 

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Yeah except where @Montoya lives in Canada doesn't experience winter like the rest of the country. Where @Blind Owl lives, winter is like Moscow, or just north of Moscow. No chains or studded tires are allowed in his area. I used to live a bit north east of where he's living, and can tell you that picture was taken either below -30C or after plowing but before salting. Otherwise it would be ice with holes in it for "traction", not snow. All of the vehicles you see are using winter rated tires (could be all season radial's in the smaller vehicles). The bus is using winter tires, and he was driving too fast for the conditions. Supposed to be something you learn in your first winter.
I spent quite a bit of time in Syracuse, NY. Clear off the top layers so you can drive on it then put down sand or fertilizer for traction.
 

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Yeah except where @Montoya lives in Canada doesn't experience winter like the rest of the country. Where @Blind Owl lives, winter is like Moscow, or just north of Moscow. No chains or studded tires are allowed in his area. I used to live a bit north east of where he's living, and can tell you that picture was taken either below -30C or after plowing but before salting. Otherwise it would be ice with holes in it for "traction", not snow. All of the vehicles you see are using winter rated tires (could be all season radial's in the smaller vehicles). The bus is using winter tires, and he was driving too fast for the conditions. Supposed to be something you learn in your first winter.
Hmm, to me, that kinda seems like a situation where the top layer has melted once or twice, and freshly frozen perfectly evenly, then gotten a layer of loose snow on top. So I'd be guessing closer to -1C to -5C that swung to +2 or +3 recently. That kinda smooth surface is just extremely slippery.
To support this theory, look at the people, yes, they're wearing winter clothing, but there are a lot of them about and they're not looking particularly bothered by the weather.
That, and Montreal in December is -1C high to -8C low or thereabouts.
 

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Those bus drivers look very experienced in the art of "retroactively repositioning" parked vehicles so they can park there too.
Yup. TESTing the street. Ha.
Hmm I'll espect places with that kind of climate to have a better organization for dealing with ice and snow... like salt and sand on streed, proper whinter tire, chain... driver capable of keeping the car in line...
I think Montoya make a good decision to move to Canada: looks like the proper TEST country!!
Haha, we're well equipped, but every year there's a fair number of people who completely forget how to drive in the winter. Makes for interesting times. As for Montoya, he's in Van, and they rarely get snow. But when they do, that city turns into a shit show, haha.
Yeah except where @Montoya lives in Canada doesn't experience winter like the rest of the country. Where @Blind Owl lives, winter is like Moscow, or just north of Moscow. No chains or studded tires are allowed in his area. I used to live a bit north east of where he's living, and can tell you that picture was taken either below -30C or after plowing but before salting. Otherwise it would be ice with holes in it for "traction", not snow. All of the vehicles you see are using winter rated tires (could be all season radial's in the smaller vehicles). The bus is using winter tires, and he was driving too fast for the conditions. Supposed to be something you learn in your first winter.
Lol, yeah, out west chains are quite normal. But here, I rarely see them. And the 401 is genuinely terrifying. I grew up on ice roads out West, but the insanity or here is... Wow.
That being said, I believe this incident was after a good amount freezing rain.
 

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I spent quite a bit of time in Syracuse, NY. Clear off the top layers so you can drive on it then put down sand or fertilizer for traction.
Yep, that's part of the answer. Problem is it's a commercial lot, so they have a plow that just plows the snow, then it gets salted or sanded later. I've seen them take a day for the whole process. Cant plow and put down sand or salt while plowing, you just scrape it off the ground. Syracuse has a special problem... I've never landed in a CRJ that spun 180 and got stuck in the snow just off of the runway while landing, except in Syracuse. That was definitely not fun.

Hmm, to me, that kinda seems like a situation where the top layer has melted once or twice, and freshly frozen perfectly evenly, then gotten a layer of loose snow on top. So I'd be guessing closer to -1C to -5C that swung to +2 or +3 recently. That kinda smooth surface is just extremely slippery.
To support this theory, look at the people, yes, they're wearing winter clothing, but there are a lot of them about and they're not looking particularly bothered by the weather.
That, and Montreal in December is -1C high to -8C low or thereabouts.
Canadians in most of Canada aren't really bothered by weather, otherwise we'd all be in B.C. We do complain a lot about the weather though, I mean what the hell else is there to complain about other than taxes and the price of gas? What tells me that you're probably right about the temperature is that the cars are sliding like that and it's snowing. What the people are wearing is not necessarily a really good gauge of the temperature. No hats is common for most of the winter, but their jackets are closed which means either it's humid or it's a bit chilly. Probably humid.
 
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Yup. TESTing the street. Ha.

Haha, we're well equipped, but every year there's a fair number of people who completely forget how to drive in the winter. Makes for interesting times. As for Montoya, he's in Van, and they rarely get snow. But when they do, that city turns into a shit show, haha.

Lol, yeah, out west chains are quite normal. But here, I rarely see them. And the 401 is genuinely terrifying. I grew up on ice roads out West, but the insanity or here is... Wow.
That being said, I believe this incident was after a good amount freezing rain.
Freezing rain is special. Not sure where you were in '98, that was the year of the ice storm. I remember the real hero's were from CN Rail, and the army. They delivered locomotives to the outlying towns that had no power for weeks. Two soldiers from Kingston helped cut ice off my roof before it collapsed. 40 high tension wires were down. Where I lived, we were fortunate that I lived less than 200 yards from a secondary line that they got running so we got power back before the first week ended. Montreal was worse off than we were, I remember that too. We had electrical crews from as far south as Texas come to help.
 
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