Looking at the Anvil Asgard

Richard Bong

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That’s sounds like sooo much fun bounty hunting with your better half. Will you guys have a name for your bounty hunting service? Who ya gonna call? Bong Hunters?
We're thinking more Killjoys than Mandalorians.

We will cross contested jurisdictions, find who or what you're looking for and bring it back to you in the condition requested. Nobody knows who hired us but everyone trusts us because our agents are guided by one principal, one code.
We will take no sides, we will take no bribes, the warrant is all.
 

Richard Bong

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Well, it it was two brothers....Bong Brothers Bounty Hunter Services (BBBHS)
Richard Bong was a World War II Fighter Pilot that flew P-38s. He is the US Ace of Aces. I named the character after him, but then changed it to Quinton McHale (As in McHale's Navy).
Vanguard and Retaliator. :)
 

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Richard Bong was a World War II Fighter Pilot that flew P-38s. He is the US Ace of Aces. I named the character after him, but then changed it to Quinton McHale (As in McHale's Navy).
Vanguard and Retaliator. :)
Someone in McHale's Navy sounds much more like someone who would be in Test...that or Hogan's Heroes
 
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I always imagined the Liberator as a craft of many in some large scale invasion force. Think D-day. Id hate to be caught outside of a convoy with that one even with the 2 escorts it can bring.
If you go that far as flying a megaton of bricks through the athmosphere then you might as well bring a Drake Ironclad Assault.
At least its got a small repair facility and with some luck that detachable command module might just survive the more embarrassing accidents. :-)
Seriously though, once controll surfaces are a thing i wonder how you fly a Liberator in athmosphere. Probably like that Boing they used for the SpaceShuttle.
THAT was a tricky flight with only the fairest weathers allowing for a take off.
Probably gotta send your escorts first and follow them down. But that would degrade the Liberator to a mere jump shuttle.
Tricky...
For me the Liberator is a way for us to move our base of operations or go long range bounty hunting with our Hawks. It can also be used to resupply an Idris with fighters.
 

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I much prefer the aesthetics of the Asgard to the Connie. I’m curious what will fit. With a crew of 5 on the ground, do you want an Ursa or a Nursa? Can you also fit a Greycat? They’re more agile. Would you want a Nox or two? They’re faster and more stealthy. How much room you have decides in some measure your choices.
 
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As a data point and nothing more, last night I was doing HRT missions in a stock Asgard. Some observations on that:

It goes through boost quickly in the current iteration (4.2 for future folks). Even without boost it's agile for size.
It's a fat target that has to tank a lot of hits. If you've got boost and can maintain some range, it's possible to avoid some fire.
Targets that can put turret pressure on you WILL melt your shields if you stay too long. Awareness to NAV OUT is required.
Armor is a good thing. We need it.
Even 6 size 3's feels light against some targets. NPC Valk's have a lot of hitpoints and turrets that have no problem hitting the Asgard. Position helps cut the incoming damage while you grind.
Having a gunner in the lower turret would DRAMATICALLY improve damage output, enough to make HRT's in Pyro lucrative for those so inclined.
It has nothing for the backside, but does carry a truckload of countermeasures.
There is plenty of space in the back to clean up the battlespace afterward, if you've left anything to loot.

For the ground game we've fit a Nursa, MTC and Fury together in the back without much effort; there are plenty of videos on YT that show what can go.

I think I've found my medium hauler.
 
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I much prefer the aesthetics of the Asgard to the Connie. I’m curious what will fit. With a crew of 5 on the ground, do you want an Ursa or a Nursa? Can you also fit a Greycat? They’re more agile. Would you want a Nox or two? They’re faster and more stealthy. How much room you have decides in some measure your choices.
Oh, I agree that the Asgard is definitely aesthetically better than the Connie. I just don't like it as much as the Redeemer. If there is a way to use the Andromeda, properly, for Bounty Hunting in Bounty Hunting 2.0, and I decide to get one, my Zeus MR will become the Connie. But I still don't like the Connie.

The Ursa, is supposed to be capable of carrying enough cargo to carry a prisoner pod, maybe 2. The problem with the Greycat, the Nox, the Dragonflies we have, the Nursa, Cyclone and most ground vehicles, is they can't carry prisoner pods. With the way ground vehicles are immune to lock on, intentionally, a ground vehicle looks like it will be more useful that a Hawk. A Ground vehicle that can bring bounties back to the ship appears to be important. The problem in doing that is you have to bring the ground vehicle to the vicinity of the target, then drive the vehicle to the target. Take the bounty, load them into the vehicle, drive them back to the ship, load them and the vehicle into the ship, and fly to a station to turn them in.

Personally, I rather just use the Hawks or the Razorcrests, I mean Cutlass Blues, but that doesn't appear to be the vision.
 
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Richard Bong was a World War II Fighter Pilot that flew P-38s. He is the US Ace of Aces.
Just checked the wikipedia page. 40 kills grants you the "Ace of Aces"? Damn, reminds me how much material (people AND machinery) the US threw at it's enemies that a single pilot had to scramble for enemies to shoot at.
Well the Luftwaffe on the other hand had it easier to score big. Many enemies, hardly any competition in the later years.
Example: Major Hartmann had 352 kills by the end of the war.
Then again, considering how the war ended, having more planes and pilots than the enemy seems to be the way to go...:o7:

For me the Liberator is a way for us to move our base of operations or go long range bounty hunting with our Hawks. It can also be used to resupply an Idris with fighters.
Ah! So basically it's your Winnebago for family trips with the bikes on a rack in the back?
Sounds nice :like:

I think I've found my medium hauler.
Yepp.... and it's gonna be my ride of choice for medium cargo until they redesign the Conny.
Come to think of it, maybe that sneak peak wasn't about the Meteor but a new Conny interior?
Or the weapon bench of the Zeus MR..?
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(Naaaaah... that is 90% Mantis innards. Gotta be that Meteor)
 
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The problem with the Greycat, the Nox, the Dragonflies we have, the Nursa, Cyclone and most ground vehicles, is they can't carry prisoner pods.
This is the problem, well stated. If 75% of bounties are taken on the ground, we are missing that piece to transport them after capture. I do recall seeing a video with a levitating prisoner pod being loaded into the back of a Hawk in the past. If the pod can fit on the grid in an Ursa, then MANY more ships would become viable bounty hunting tools, including the 300i which was marketed for this role.

We could really stand to have some better details about how CIG expects this game loop to play out now.
 

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Today I learned;
There are a lot more history nerds here than I considered possible. I like this.
 

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Just checked the wikipedia page. 40 kills grants you the "Ace of Aces"? Damn, reminds me how much material (people AND machinery) the US threw at it's enemies that a single pilot had to scramble for enemies to shoot at.
Well the Luftwaffe on the other hand had it easier to score big. Many enemies, hardly any competition in the later years.
Example: Major Hartmann had 352 kills by the end of the war.
Then again, considering how the war ended, having more planes and pilots than the enemy seems to be the way to go...:o7:


Ah! So basically it's your Winnebago for family trips with the bikes on a rack in the back?
Sounds nice :like:


Yepp.... and it's gonna be my ride of choice for medium cargo until they redesign the Conny.
Come to think of it, maybe that sneak peak wasn't about the Meteor but a new Conny interior?
Or the weapon bench of the Zeus MR..?
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(Naaaaah... that is 90% Mantis innards. Gotta be that Meteor)
The difference was that the US, normally, sent you home after about 26 to train the next generation of fighter pilots. German pilots had no place to go. It is why US fighter pilots got better during hte war but German and Japanese pilots wound up with insufficient training and less and less experience as the war progressed.

Oh, and the top German pilot was on the Eastern Front.
 

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This is the problem, well stated. If 75% of bounties are taken on the ground, we are missing that piece to transport them after capture. I do recall seeing a video with a levitating prisoner pod being loaded into the back of a Hawk in the past. If the pod can fit on the grid in an Ursa, then MANY more ships would become viable bounty hunting tools, including the 300i which was marketed for this role.

We could really stand to have some better details about how CIG expects this game loop to play out now.
The idea that ground vehicles are invulnerable to turrets, and have places, outside, that space ships can't go, is just absurd. It is only there to sell Ground Vehicles. The Hawk should be able to go everywhere an Ursa can go, except underground.
 

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Ah! So basically it's your Winnebago for family trips with the bikes on a rack in the back?
Sounds nice :like:
More like a "jeep carrier" from WWII. They used those to transport Army Air Corps planes to combat zones, loading them by crane since they couldn't land on carriers.
They also transported PT boats by cargo ships, under most circumstances because the PT Boats lacked the range to get anywhere.
 

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This is the problem, well stated. If 75% of bounties are taken on the ground, we are missing that piece to transport them after capture. I do recall seeing a video with a levitating prisoner pod being loaded into the back of a Hawk in the past. If the pod can fit on the grid in an Ursa, then MANY more ships would become viable bounty hunting tools, including the 300i which was marketed for this role.

We could really stand to have some better details about how CIG expects this game loop to play out now.
I'm also curious how you get a prisoner from the G-Loc bar or MacIntyre & Victor's Bar to the spaceport, onto your ship and to the station that accepts pods. Do you have to take the Tram?
 
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