Star Citizen hits $1B in funding! Odin sale pushes us over line!

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That’s absolutely wild.

I mean we all knew it would hit $1b sooner all later. That said if in 2012 (When I backed) had you said a Kickstarter from the guy who made Wing Commander would one day surpass $1b in funding. Well I would have called you an absolute lunatic.
 

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Soooo...
14 years and 1 billion dollar thrown into the pire.... and still no finished product!
What kind of tradition is this?
Probably a german one.
Looking at you Stuttgart 21.

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All these huge projects fail when it comes to public trnsportation.
The elevators are not yet working either by the way...
 

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Wow! But as I was saying. Public transportation. That's where the money is... :-P
 
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Soooo...
14 years and 1 billion dollar thrown into the pire.... and still no finished product!
What kind of tradition is this?
Probably a german one.
Looking at you Stuttgart 21.

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All these huge projects fail when it comes to public trnsportation.
The elevators are not yet working either by the way...
California Bullet Train is saying "hold my beer" lol


18 years...$30 billion spent so far...0 (ZERO) miles of track completed
 

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That looks pretty good compared to CA’s $28B high speed rail with not a single length of track laid.
California Bullet Train is saying "hold my beer" lol
Those the same ones? Or are we looking at $58B total?
If so just how much money does California generate to burn it like that?

I would have been happy with Freelancer 2!
I feel ya.
Though personally I am waiting for Grey to put his chopping tools to a Freelancer MAX.
Behold the FREAKlancer!
Butt end of a Freelancer MAX, front is a Vanguard. Wings replaced with Redeemer drives.
All weapons of the original parts except for the tail turret. Thats the same remote one the Shiv got.
Savvy..?
 

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<<Those the same ones? Or are we looking at $58B total? If so just how much money does California generate to burn it like that?>>

My bad. The sunk cost right now of CA’s bullet train is indeed $54B. Originally projected to cost $33B, projections are now ~$250B and no one believes it can be built for that much. Could be the money that all disappeared that was supposed to go to the homeless was the $28B I was recalling.

CA has the fifth largest economy in the world, at $4.25T GDP annually. The state is fraught with staggering corruption. They just passed a bill to stop people from exposing the fraud. . .no joke. The “Stop Nick Shirley Act” is designed specifically to punish citizen journalists trying to uncover government and NGO corruption. It’s shocking, so much so that people expect it to be overturned by the US Supreme Court.

CA is a paradox. It is certainly one of the most beautiful and resource rich parts of the world with amazing weather and lots of rich industries. OTOH, the state has been so mismanaged for so long that people are leaving in droves. The cities have all become zombified wastelands with streets full of discarded needles and human feces littering the streets, and many cities with 1/3 to 2/3 of their offices empty.

LA is very bad, but San Francisco is the absolute worst. This is especially painful to see because when I was there 30 years ago it was amazing. Now it resembles something from an apocalypse movie.

Atop all the problems you can identify just with a glance are much deeper problems. The water plan for the state created in the 50’s was a detailed plan of reservoirs catching fresh water from mountain melt and delivering it to the rich farmlands and fast growing cities. Had that plan not been thwarted in the 70’s, there would be plenty of water and cheap electric power for everyone. Instead, rich fields are abandoned for lack of water. It is rationed in the cities and the people suffer the highest energy prices in the nation. The rich living on the coast have what they need but the common folk go without.

I could rant for ages. It’s one of the greatest tragedies in all American history and all completely avoidable. Yet, this is what people voted for. People get the leadership they deserve.
 
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San Francisco is the absolute worst. This is especially painful to see because when I was there 30 years ago it was amazing.
2 years ago SF was still amazing. And not exactly deserted. Castro and the Wharf happend to be pretty busy actually.
Haven't come back there though lately because ever since the 45th became the 47th again it became unhealthy to got through security on US Airports if you ever shared a single Trump-Meme.
So in case in the next couple of days you wonder why so few people from overseas show up to that soccer world-championship, the Thought-Police is the reason.
Having all your online accounts laid open for the privilege to spent lots of money in the US?
Naaaaaaaahhh.... thanks but no.
I'd rather throw it into the CIG shredder for a nice jpeg.

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It’s one of the greatest tragedies in all American history and all completely avoidable. Yet, this is what people voted for. People get the leadership they deserve.
See...? Like this. I am aware that YOU didn't mean the guy in the oval office. But I go through the security check on an airport in the US with THAT sentence in my chat and depending on how much of a bully (or proud patriot) the officer is I might spend more time than planned in a place I didn't wanna find myself in under charges of "foreign propaganda" or something.
 

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Those the same ones? Or are we looking at $58B total?
If so just how much money does California generate to burn it like that?


I feel ya.
Though personally I am waiting for Grey to put his chopping tools to a Freelancer MAX.
Behold the FREAKlancer!
Butt end of a Freelancer MAX, front is a Vanguard. Wings replaced with Redeemer drives.
All weapons of the original parts except for the tail turret. Thats the same remote one the Shiv got.
Savvy..?
That actually sounds more like a super vanguard and I love it.
 
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<<Those the same ones? Or are we looking at $58B total? If so just how much money does California generate to burn it like that?>>

My bad. The sunk cost right now of CA’s bullet train is indeed $54B. Originally projected to cost $33B, projections are now ~$250B and no one believes it can be built for that much. Could be the money that all disappeared that was supposed to go to the homeless was the $28B I was recalling.

CA has the fifth largest economy in the world, at $4.25T GDP annually. The state is fraught with staggering corruption. They just passed a bill to stop people from exposing the fraud. . .no joke. The “Stop Nick Shirley Act” is designed specifically to punish citizen journalists trying to uncover government and NGO corruption. It’s shocking, so much so that people expect it to be overturned by the US Supreme Court.

CA is a paradox. It is certainly one of the most beautiful and resource rich parts of the world with amazing weather and lots of rich industries. OTOH, the state has been so mismanaged for so long that people are leaving in droves. The cities have all become zombified wastelands with streets full of discarded needles and human feces littering the streets, and many cities with 1/3 to 2/3 of their offices empty.

LA is very bad, but San Francisco is the absolute worst. This is especially painful to see because when I was there 30 years ago it was amazing. Now it resembles something from an apocalypse movie.

Atop all the problems you can identify just with a glance are much deeper problems. The water plan for the state created in the 50’s was a detailed plan of reservoirs catching fresh water from mountain melt and delivering it to the rich farmlands and fast growing cities. Had that plan not been thwarted in the 70’s, there would be plenty of water and cheap electric power for everyone. Instead, rich fields are abandoned for lack of water. It is rationed in the cities and the people suffer the highest energy prices in the nation. The rich living on the coast have what they need but the common folk go without.

I could rant for ages. It’s one of the greatest tragedies in all American history and all completely avoidable. Yet, this is what people voted for. People get the leadership they deserve.
I’ve been to San Fran within the past 2-3 and I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen the bad parts other than some obvious tents/ encampments in brush. I think the commercial real estate/office building thing is everywhere since COVID. Part of the reason so many companies are pushing a return to office.
But holy Jesus, are the water rights and management in the entire west so fucked up. I took an environmental economics course in college and the teacher got his phd analyzing the Colorado River. The boondoggle he laid out was incredible. Old farms upstream being able to drain incredible amounts of water and doing it just to be on record using that amount of water so they don’t lose it…stupid.
 
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Old farms upstream being able to drain incredible amounts of water and doing it just to be on record using that amount of water so they don’t lose it…stupid.
Well, I know the feeling. Once you get a quota of anything you fill that quota even if you don't need it.
Imagine you'd only tke let's say 80% one year.
Would they give you a recommendation for being resourceful? Maybe.
But you'd get slotted down for only these 80% from then on.
So they take their share if they need it or not. We'd need a system to lend out surplus shares without waving acquisition rights.
I don't know about the USA but here in good old Europe something that flexible is a pipedream. Sadly...
 

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Haven't come back there though lately because ever since the 45th became the 47th again it became unhealthy to got through security on US Airports if you ever shared a single Trump-Meme. . .

See...? Like this. I am aware that YOU didn't mean the guy in the oval office. But I go through the security check on an airport in the US with THAT sentence in my chat and depending on how much of a bully (or proud patriot) the officer is I might spend more time than planned in a place I didn't wanna find myself in under charges of "foreign propaganda" or something.
I think you have the US mixed up with the UK. Free speech is alive and well in the land of the free and the home of the brave. It’s the UK that has locked up 18,000 of its own citizens last year for memes posted, literally three times as many as Russia locked up. I can confidently say that has never happened in the US. Not once. People can get locked up if they’re caught planning terrorist attacks, but that’s a very different thing than say, offering a political, racist or xenophobic meme.

If someone convinced you free speech is under attack here, they were likely propagandizing you. The only common censorship here is by the social platforms, and even that has been knocked back since the Twitter Files.

The US is still the principle bastion of freedom, but our Allies have grown thin. Australia left the Freedom lot during COVID and the UK, Germany, France, and Sweden are all still actively punishing their legacy populous any time they raise questions concerning the consequences of Islamic migration. Y’all are fucked by your own, unelected bureaucrats trying to make up for falling birth rates. There are so many people from so many European nations complaining about this that they’ve begun coming to the US. The Irish, the English, the Dutch, the Aussies, all seeking audiences here because their homeland won’t allow them to speak in public. Anyone know the name of that smokin’ hot Dainish political activist, recently refused entry into the UK under fears she would insult Muslims? Eva vlaardingerbroek or some such?

News flash: when you stop people from insulting each other you have reached the pinnacle of censorship. It doesn’t get any worse than that. So do your part to fight it! Say “fuck you!” to a friend.
 
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As to San Francisco, I do urge folks interested to search the data. What is happening in SF is unprecedented. The US has had cities fail before. I recall the fall of Detroit when the Japanese beat America to fuel efficient, front wheel drive cars in the 70’s. That city built on autos writhed for years before rolling over and dying. That was nothing compared to what is happening in SF. Search the looting vids where gangs of 50 charge a store, everyone grabbing all they can carry and sprinting away. The chain stores like CVS are all leaving because their loss prevention departments tell the stores cannot earn a profit until the police return to arresting thieves.

Fentanyl and Super Meth are creating tent cities all across America. Only LA has more homeless than SF. And yeah, when half the office space goes unrented, the city is done for. SF bay has some of the best sailing in the world, just East is some of the best wine country, Silicon Valley is there, fresh snow crab comes down from Alaska daily, it is microbrewery heaven, etc. It’s all dying. All just dying.

 
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