Ship Talk Returns! - Ship Talk #12 - Heavy Industry

[Star Pilgrim]

I meant the game mechanics (cargo, ship routing etc) NOT the economy.
That is seperate as they said. Well Tony Zurovec.

Besides they are going to keep the economy in check artificially and not let it run out of all measure of reason like in EVE online and many others.

How?
Well demmand and supply.
There will be 90% of NPCs and only 10% of us.

They are in control of the AI model.

 

[Black Sunder]

strongly disagree

inflation in game economies has killed several AAA titles. balancing in-game money faucets and sinks while keeping game play engaging is hard.

This is true but as Star Pilgrim said they will be keeping a close eye on it through the automated AI system. You can also only purchase a certain amount of UEC a month.

 

[Gearen]

I'm getting really tempted to ccu my Orion to a Reclaimer.... or not, I don't know.... I'm not that interested in salvaging than I'm in mining.... but daaaam, that Aegis ship design is telling me to do things, nasty things....


For sure I'll get some ccu for the two ships since they will be free.....

 

[Gearen]

Get away you fu***ng Aeguis demon. F**k you and you Reclaimer design. RSI Orion master race is the way I'll go, the clean way.

Also.... Thinking about that I keep seeing mining a more profitable profession, you know.... I see more easy to find big rocks in space than big ships or concentration of ships.... I know we don,t actually known how rare things will be to find in the universe but that's my point of view.

And to be honest, yeah the Reclaimer design rocks but the Orion design if also amazing.

Anyway, since both ships are the same cost, the ccu will be 0€ from Orion to Retaliator and the other way , so I'll grave some ccu for when one of the two comes into a real working model to see booth designs in first person ;)

Also I want to point that the link to the Orion concept sale is broken.

 

[Black Sunder]

Get away you fu***ng Aeguis demon. F**k you and you Reclaimer design. RSI Orion master race is the way I'll go, the clean way.

Also.... Thinking about that I keep seeing mining a more profitable profession, you know.... I see more easy to find big rocks in space than big ships or concentration of ships.... I know we don,t actually known how rare things will be to find in the universe but that's my point of view.

And to be honest, yeah the Reclaimer design rocks but the Orion design if also amazing.

Anyway, since both ships are the same cost, the ccu will be 0€ from Orion to Retaliator and the other way , so I'll grave some ccu for when one of the two comes into a real working model to see booth designs in first person ;)

Why not have both? *evil grin*

 

[Gearen]

Why not have both? *evil grin*

Because I don actually want to have two big ships for industry. I'm not going to expend more money, and to get the Retaliator I'll have to melt my Carrack, and there is no way I'm doing that. Carrack design is far more amazing than Retaliator design, at least for me. Also I'll be an industry guy for sure and some day I'll get the Retaliator in game, but even in mining and reclaim are different roles its somethin close: you find thing, you take thing, you refine thing, you transport thing. At leat haveing an Orion and a Carrack I'll be able to do my different things when the game starts.

Also I like to have at least a RSI ship. We all enter in the webpage all the days, the Robert Space Industry page, and some people doesn't even have a RSI ship. It's stupid, I know, but I like the way RSI design is.

 

[Star Pilgrim]

The ONLY ships worth pledging is industry ships with LTI.
Everything else is fluff and can be earned easy with those industry ships.

Money maker ship up front will give you a meaningful head start.
You can always do fun and games later when you have enough money to play around.

Well I am going to CCU Crucible to a Phoenix, just because I preffer other industry roles more and I do not have any luxury ship yet (fingers crossed they sell 890J once more tho).

 

[Adiran]

My money maker ship is my carrack. ;)

 

[Adiran]

Something of note. The carrack/890 Jump is for the moment considered the largest multi crew ships. Everything bigger is to be considered a capital ship.

So keep that in mind for cost to run as well. Since the cost to run might be verry high.

 

[Star Pilgrim]

Insignifficant.

Cost to run is proportionate to the proffits made by %.
It does not matter what kind of ship you have.

Small ship has same % of cost to run since proffits are a lot smaller.

The most expensive thing would be if you have a battle chariot full of missiles and you go after pirates lol.
Or if you equip your ship fully with ballistic weaponry/ammo instead of energy weapons.

But those are fighting ships, which should not be part of this discussion so I digress.

 

[glockjs]

is it madness that i'm thinking of melting alot of stuff to start off with a crucible or reclaimer, starfarer and hull b?

 

[Opiepal]

Why not have both? *evil grin*

That is how I settled the argument!

 

[Star Pilgrim]

Well if you are funds limited and just want one industrial ship, pick the one you see yourself enjoying the most naturally.

Some mechanics are really complicated, which is better than pressing a button and looking at a progress meter.
Some people do not like that tho.

I am all for micro management and mini games to pass the time while making money. :)

 

[glockjs]

and now i'm thinking or melting the hull b just to reach for the reclaimer. is not starting with a hull worth the reach for a reclaimer if i plan on owning a crucible?

 

[Star Pilgrim]

Hull B is a lot more profitabble if pirates leave you alone and i is a lot easier.
I mean it is just hauling from A to B, no mechanics involved.

Starin at the wall and hoping fo come excitement *cough* pirates I mean. :D

 

[Black Sunder]

Tomorrow(November 25th) The Orion and Reclaimer go on sale. Pick one up(or Both!) along with a Crucible. There is money to be made! There is money to be made from our own people after they crash!

 

[Wolf Lord Caldersson]

Now for Extra Heresy(because our Inquisitors are falling asleep)!

"So the fleet is repaired and ready to go after that last battle?"

"No......you sent Reclaimers to the battle site and they shredded everything to scrap for selling."

"But I said to salvage everything possible!"

"I don't think that word means what you think it means in this context."

"Next time just know what I mean to say and repair all the ships."

"Even the enemy?"

"......yes for C/P."

"C/P?"

"Confusion and Profit of course!"

WHAT HERESY IN THE FORUMS!?! GET ME THE FLAME-BAN! WE WILL BRING THE GOD-ADMIRAL MONTOYA THIS HERETICS AVATAR AND SIG!!!

nice write up btw.

 

[Black Sunder]

nice write up btw.

Thank you. I enjoyed writing this one.

 

[Black Sunder]

The Industrial Ships sale is up now:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15078-AnniVERSEary-Sale-Industrial-Starships

 

[Black Sunder]

The Crucible Q&A got put up today. Some good info all around.