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This is a serious revolution in shooting and home defense. . .anyone using a pistol or shotgun. The overwhelming majority of combat encounters in the home happen in the dark, so savvy defense gurus practice “blind fighting” where they point their weapon without use of the sights. Many others put a flashlight on a gun, but this betrays your presence which can get you killed.

This new solution is huge for tactical shooting. See without being seen, which as you know is my mantra here at TEST.

In most situations, thermal is superior to night vision because it so clearly marks opponents. It does not reveal objects as well as night vision but if you are defending your home, you already know where all the objects are.

I’m not certain what country you’re thinking of but most shootings here in the US are on the street, are drug related and are one gang killing people in another gang. Almost all shootings are with unregistered pistols, at night, on public streets. It’s mostly drug dealers killing other drug dealers.

There’s no way to answer the question about selling this technology to those without a police record, because firearms laws are almost always state laws. Hence, there are over 38,000 firearms laws in the US.

The feds limit fully automatic weapons, suppressors, etc. The vast majority of firearms laws are state and so vary a great deal.

Your point is well made, though. Criminals can make use of thermal pistol sights as easily as law abiding citizens. Probably it will be a decade before the states catch up with and regulate this technology, presuming they pas any laws at all. I’m not familiar with any laws against lights and lasers except for hunting.

My point was really that if you understand that it is more likely to need a gun in the dark than the light, and you know you can’t use gunsights in the dark, and you thus rely upon lights and lasers, there is now what appears a superior choice. Thermal sights make people glow, and make it easy to find center body mass. I think this technology may even change the way people train, since you can see with the sight what you might miss without. My guess is a preferred method of scanning areas through the sight will develop—something I have not seen before. Also, an advanced pistol method may become more popular, where you hold the pistol much closer to the body instead of extending your arms. This will move the sight closer which will paint a larger area. John Wick would be proud.

I’m sure there are people here who don’t believe at all in a right to self-defense, but we’re playing a game where characters shoot each other. Seems people can manage a thick skin when they want to.

Just as an aside, firearms laws in the US do not vary state to state in the way you would presume. Liberal states can have very pro-gun laws and the reverse as well. For instance, in Oregon where I lived for 12 years, which is an extremely Left state, lethal force is legal in protection of private property. That’s an unusually pro-self defense stance only found in a few states.

I agree people care less about drug dealers killing each other than they would otherwise, but there is a lot of collateral damage. It’s pretty common for the Cripps or the Bloods to drive by the home of a rival gang member and shoot up the neighborhood, and innocents get hit pretty often. In round numbers there is something like 30k shootings a year, half of which are suicides. Of the remaining 15k, about 14k are gang/drug related. Of those that aren’t a large number are “righteous shootings” like home defense and robbers getting what they deserve.

The high crime rate with guns is a consequence of the high drug use and fantastic money available for drug peddlers. When I lived in Portland I met Cripps and Bloods members on the streets often, and they ALL carry illegal, unregistered handguns.

A little aside, I was living in Portland circa 1987 when they passed their concealed carry law. Overnight, 20,000 citizens were carrying and the armed robberies dropped from 11/week in the city proper; to 2-3/month. Criminals are scared of an armed citizenry.

There is a lot of blather here about high capacity rifles, but we have far fewer killings with rifles than we do knives and fists.

Fact is, if you wanted to do something about the shootings, the thing we know works is to bolster law enforcement presence in the areas where the shootings occur. We know beyond a doubt this works, but what happens in most cities is the police avoid the crime areas. So Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, San Francisco, are all delivered over to the thugs. They pass laws saying they can’t prosecute theft under $1,000, so daylight looting is becoming common. The streets are covered in human feces and used hypodermic needles which the cities distribute for free in the name of stopping AIDS and other shared needle diseases. Women cannot walk alone day or night in many parts of many cities. None of this was happening until the 80’s.

Notice New York City is not on the list above because since Giuliani was Mayor in the 80’s, law enforcement has been done seriously. The new Mayor however wants to defund all police, so expect NYC to join the cities in decline list soon.

People voted for all this. Western Civilization and the rule of law are falling.

Nightlane said:

why not use a holographic sight

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They don’t give you the ability to see a darkened target. A flashlight will, but this exposes your position. Thermal allows you to see the target without necessarily being seen.