Avenger Questions from a Noob

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As a cheap newbie, I've only got a Mustang in my arsenal right now. So I've taken to renting some ships to see what they are like. Last night I rented the Avenger Stalker. I have some questions/observations that I'd like to get feedback on.

1. First thing I noticed was the sparse HUD. (Hmmm... I thought, maybe I just need another beer. That didn't work as a fix for the HUD. Other things, yes, but not the HUD).

The HUD had multiple targeting pips, which was confusing enough, but I am starting to figure that out. It didn't have any info on the targeted ship though. Nor did it have information on my shields or ammo, or... etc. Is this typical? I found some feedback on reddit that said to use free look to see the dash. Sure enough, it was there, but that sucks to have to look at your crotch while your in the midst of a dogfight, yes? Is the HUD a factor of the helmet? Does anyone know anything about that?

2. It didn't seem to maneuver as quickly as my Mustang. I assume that is because it's a bigger, heavier ship. That's just the way it is. Is the Mustang one of the more nimble ships?

3. It didn't seem like you could change out the nose gun. Do I just not know how to do that? And while we're at it here, what are some loadout suggestions for the Avenger. I tried using the missiles, but in my newbie status either I'm bad at shooting them after I get a lock, or they don't do much damage. I need to figure out what missiles they were that I had, I didn't think to look last night.
 
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1. yeah, the pips and HUD suck. You can't replace the Tigerstreik, you don't even want to replace the Tigerstreik, except if you have a Warlock. An EMP burst will disable your Tigerstreik much longer than all other systems. Somebody told me that it will be disabled for over a minute. The only other weapon that has the same PIP as the Tigerstreik is the SW16BR2 “SAWBUCK”, but the Sawbuck is not so good. Your only other option is using dual triggers and only fire weapons if the line up with its PIP

2. Compared to the Mustang the Avenger is a flying brick . When turning use plenty of boost to make a faster turn, however, maybe it is a bug, but since 2.6.1 the Delta keeps it speed when making a 180 while using strafe continually, meaning that you will stay flying backwards until you release strafe.

3. Yes, you can't replace the Tigerstreik, but it is a good weapon, at short range really deadly. Try to find some decent wing guns. The stock S1 Suckerpunch won't do allot damage, replace them with some S2 guns. I use the Badgers to spam my targets with allot of fire, but you must try it yourself, ballistics, repeaters or laser cannons.
Stock you have 2 S2 Dominators and 2 S2 Ignite. One S2 missile can't even down a Vanduul, unless you already shot down its shields. Maybe replace the 4 S2 missiles with 2 S3 missiles, I can't give you a good advice there because I hardly use missiles and when I use them, it is to keep my target busy while taking him down with guns.
 

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Thanks for the words of wisdom. Beer and SC is only a short time away, right after I put my kid's car back together.
 

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If the reason you're asking is to make a decision to buy the ship or not, CIG always said to consider the general description of a ship (like the role and the intended performance), not its current state while in development. The Avenger is an excellent choice for a starter ship, although it may not be top notch at this point in development.
 

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Thanks for the words of wisdom. Beer and SC is only a short time away, right after I put my kid's car back together.
Ok, I will bite...what happened to the your kid's car? Is it a project or something more accidental...

If it's a project, please share pics and stories! If it's an accident, we can commiserate with you.

My brother and I have a bet on when his son will have his first accident. I say this year, he just keeps saying "next month" because he drives so bad....and this is from my "drive with one hand on the wheel holding the cell phone to use as a map" brother....
 
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Ok, I will bite...what happened to the your kid's car? Is it a project or something more accidental...

If it's a project, please share pics and stories! If it's an accident, we can commiserate with you.
Hah! Funny. But since you asked.... (sorry, now everyone needs to suffer through this story). The downside is I don't have any pictures, but it was a repair, not an accident. Thus begins the shit posting....

The backstory is that my wife and I have always told the kids they have to buy their own cars. We supply a car for about the first year, then we take it back and they need to fend for themselves. It's how I got my first junker. So my son bought a junker. The unfortunate next step is that my son skipped college, did a year of trade school, and managed to buy his own business before he was even 20 years old, and he's making a ton of money. So when the junker broke down he bough another car and left his first one to rot on our driveway.

After 6 months I told him I was fixing it up and selling it to get it out of the way, but the money is mine. Turns out the timing belt skipped a few notches, so it's been ripped apart for a couple weekends (his buddy told him it was the distributor, so he bought a new distributor for it, when it didn't work, that's when he abandoned it). It's back together and running again, but now it's got no power, and I suspect the catalytic converter is clogged up. So it's getting sold for a couple hundred bucks to the first person who wants a project car. Any takers? 1990 Toyota Camry. I'll go best offer to anyone who wants to drag it outta here! Maybe just a case of beer or a bottle of Jack Daniels!!!!!:beer::beer::beer:
 
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