Awww yeessss! Eclipse unveiled!

SweetDee

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Cool ship. I like this a lot more than the Hurricane.

I'm not gonna buy one because it doesn't fit my wants from the game, but I totally understand why you would. The price is high if it cannot GTFO if things go south because it doesn't look like it has any weapons other than big ol' bombs. However, if those torpedos can take out a larger class ship in one go, then hells ya.
 

NaffNaffBobFace

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I just have one question... just one...
can we fit the eclipse into another ship?
The only reason why aircraft have folding wings in real life is to be carrier based. The design suggests that's the intention, but the image is only concept and everything can change.
 

Grimm_Reaper

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I think so. Might carry a little more ordinance than the Gladiator. Think of the B2 Spirit: much smaller than the B52, but large enough for the largest sort of bomb you have, which is much larger than what will fit on a fighter/bomber like the F-18.

I would not be surprised if this fits a couple S10 Torps, though my guess is 4 S5s. The Gladiator fits S5s. So far as I am aware, the designations run S1, S2 and S3 for missiles, and S5 and S10 for torpedoes. Main differences are the Torps can't reasonably hit smallish craft, and the larger the missile, the slower it is, harder it is to fool with countermeasures and the greater the range and payload. Finding something stealthy to swap back and forth between S3s and S5s would be cool.

Certainly they modeled it on the B2. Look at it. It's all beautious and like that. I wanna know what guns it has! My guess is this will be disappointing, but if it mounted 4 S4 guns, I would be in hog heaven. It is big enough!
I thought their latest classification of torps put gladiator, harbinger with S2 - S3 torps Retaliator S5 and Polaris S10
 

Shadow Reaper

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I thought their latest classification of torps put gladiator, harbinger with S2 - S3 torps Retaliator S5 and Polaris S10
Fighters generally carry S1 and S2. Some rare fighters like the Harbinger, and Sentinel carry S3. The Gladiator carries S5, so we can guess it will be able to carry S3 instead. The Tally says S3, but if you recall the walk throughs, looks like they are S10. The Polaris is a much bigger ship and carries both 2 S3 launchers and 4 S10 launchers, all with much larger magazines than you find on fighters.

I think there will be some question of whether the Harbinger can carry S5s until they fix the ships page, which is WAY overdue, but that was the original intention--for the Harbinger to be caps ship strike capable, which would imply Torps rather than just missiles.

As a general rule with important exceptions, trade ships not intended for combat do not carry missiles or Torps. The Freelancer, Connie and BMM are notable exceptions. There are no pylon mounts on the Carrack, Hull series, StarG, Reclaimer, Cat, Crucible, Prospector, etc. By contrast almost all combat ships have pylons. I think the Prowler may be the only combat ship without them.
 

Thalstan

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Ok, going to put my guess on what this ship will have, it's size, and armament

It LOOKS like it has a 16-20m beam with the wings folded. I would guess 26-30m if the wings fold down.
Based on the patch...16-20m in length.

Now, the Gladiator has 4 s5 torpedos, 8 S2 missiles, 2 S2 guns on the turret, and 2 s3 gun hardpoints on the wings. It costs a lot less than the Eclipse....

Due to "stealth", I would guess....2-4 S5 or higher Torpedos, I am guessing 2 because I don't see a huge bomb/torpedo bay like the Gladiator has
I see what MIGHT be 2 or 4 S1 gun ports on the wing, but there might not be any other weapons.
I see between 2-4 engines...let's call it 2 S2 or 4 S1 engines

I see room for 1 pilot, there MIGHT be room for 2, but I doubt it.

Honestly, I think a bunch of people might have bought a pig in a poke, but I hope not. Unless this thing is faster than a Gladius, more nimble than a 85X, and has shields up the wazoo, this level of equipment seems REALLY small for a ship this expensive. Stealth does not cover it....

Of course, if my estimate of the size is WAY off...if this is 50m wide and 40m long, then this becomes a much bigger ship than I thought and will support much larger payloads. Not as much as a Retaliator, but it will probably be more effective.

Here is hoping I am wrong and this is bigger than I thought...
 
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