Build me a new PC: Oz
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There is no pro or con afaik. With more ram modules, the variance of possible defect modules rises, thats all; oh, and the prices for 16gb ram modules will be higher than those of 8gb modules.
If there are no price issues, I would always recommend the two-modules-solution.
thanks for that, im slightly under budget at the moment so i might go for the 2 x16
Hi Folks,
Another question... im currently l;ooking at a PSU 650 watt corsair unit however i have no idea how many watts ill actually need? is there a way to know if this will be enough to power the system without going overboard?
im also wondering is do i need the premium version of windows 10? i ask as i have the premium version of vista (my currnt operating system) and i got it due to a ram cap on the home edition.
Another question... im currently l;ooking at a PSU 650 watt corsair unit however i have no idea how many watts ill actually need? is there a way to know if this will be enough to power the system without going overboard?
im also wondering is do i need the premium version of windows 10? i ask as i have the premium version of vista (my currnt operating system) and i got it due to a ram cap on the home edition.
Google for a calculator, i.e. this one: http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/
PCPartPicker is a beautiful tool. Put your entire build into it and not only will PCPartPicker tell you where online to find your parts the cheapest, it will also calculate out the wattage you need.
I don't recall who said it, but Seagate makes hard drives, not power supplies. You are thinking SeaSonic (who admittedly do make very good power supplies).
Super-high-end water cooling loops will outperform air coolers, but at excessive cost. If you're only looking to spend under $100 USD on a CPU cooler, go with the Noctua NH D14 - that will outperform any liquid cooler in its price bracket by almost double the delta-T. (EDIT: The other major reasons to pick up water cooling are noise and "I have a tiny case with no airflow.")
I don't recall who said it, but Seagate makes hard drives, not power supplies. You are thinking SeaSonic (who admittedly do make very good power supplies).
Super-high-end water cooling loops will outperform air coolers, but at excessive cost. If you're only looking to spend under $100 USD on a CPU cooler, go with the Noctua NH D14 - that will outperform any liquid cooler in its price bracket by almost double the delta-T. (EDIT: The other major reasons to pick up water cooling are noise and "I have a tiny case with no airflow.")
ill also use pc part picker and chek it out, thanks for the advice :)
Kapital_Kong
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Hey mate go on https://www.pccasegear.com/category/1411/systems or http://www.msy.com.au/home.php (Dodgy looking but where I got the parts to build my first pc with 6 years going strong) or https://www.mwave.com.au/desktop-computers/mwave-computers (These are all decent computer stores here mate, so have a shop around this ones and if you really want there's https://www.kogan.com/au/shop/tablets-laptops/graphics-cards/?order_by=-price They also sell parts for semi decent prices but it's up to you
I'm glad you pointed this out because I was thinking the same thing :)
I have the i7 6700k with a z170 board with a kraken liquid cooler. It idles at about 25 c in windows.
For a list of power supply tiers : http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
I had my eye on the modular Corsair HX or RM series PSU's with the neat flat rubber cabling that looks like sata cables.
why only 32gb? go with 4x 16gb or be like me and get an X99 with 8x16gb of ram lol
I just recently upgraded to this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132822
with the I7-6900k.
Although i wish i waited to the 10th anniversary rampage to come out, it looks sexy, but its like $600.
I also spent way more money on this computer than i needed to... granted, the tower is a 2 year old corsair 900D, the graphics card is a 1.5 old 980TI, and the watercooling system is mostly 3 years old, with a couple new pumps thrown in, but it was custom built for my case by me, power supply is about 4 years old, been in like 3 different cases, but its 1200W and still ticking good, prolly will swap it into my GF's PC next year when i upgrade my PSU and add in my 4th SSD... but the RAM is only 6 months old, the motherboard and CPU are about 5-7 months old... oh yea, here is my ram kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232269
I just recently upgraded to this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132822
with the I7-6900k.
Although i wish i waited to the 10th anniversary rampage to come out, it looks sexy, but its like $600.
I also spent way more money on this computer than i needed to... granted, the tower is a 2 year old corsair 900D, the graphics card is a 1.5 old 980TI, and the watercooling system is mostly 3 years old, with a couple new pumps thrown in, but it was custom built for my case by me, power supply is about 4 years old, been in like 3 different cases, but its 1200W and still ticking good, prolly will swap it into my GF's PC next year when i upgrade my PSU and add in my 4th SSD... but the RAM is only 6 months old, the motherboard and CPU are about 5-7 months old... oh yea, here is my ram kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232269
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Uhm... the board you posted is an X99, which is LGA 2011-v3 socketed. The i7 6700K doesn't fit in it, it's LGA 1151.
Did you mean the new i7 6900K?
yep, thats the one, cost an arm and a leg, musta hit the 7 on my numpad instead of the 9 lol
This should help regarding the decision "number of cores vs. GHZ":
Question: How many cores are you guys targeting to be able to use? Can we expect that you will try and push 8 cores as cryengine 3 is supposed to be capable of using?
Jackson: We're working with 6 core / 12 thread machines and we hope to be able to use them fully . I think we're aiming to be able to scale from 2 cores up, not sure what our recommended and peak system config will be yet.
Question: Does Star Citizen (Cryengine 3) utilize all cores in a multi-core CPU? Will it be using more than 4 cores when an AMD FX-8350 8 Core CPU is detected?
Reindell: CryEngine uses all available cores of a CPU. Still making a game engine that really spreads the work over all cores equally is not that easy. There are quite a few tasks that can run on their own cores but there are also some “big” tasks that need to run on a single core as there is no guarantee of the execution order if code runs on multiple cores simultaneously. The engine definitely benefits from 4+, but the performance increase from 2->4 cores is much higher than the benefit from 4->8 cores.
Ergo: if in doubt, not the hightes amount of cores, but the higher GHz-rate counts. Better a very fast CPU with four or six cores than an octacore with less GHz
Question: How many cores are you guys targeting to be able to use? Can we expect that you will try and push 8 cores as cryengine 3 is supposed to be capable of using?
Jackson: We're working with 6 core / 12 thread machines and we hope to be able to use them fully . I think we're aiming to be able to scale from 2 cores up, not sure what our recommended and peak system config will be yet.
Question: Does Star Citizen (Cryengine 3) utilize all cores in a multi-core CPU? Will it be using more than 4 cores when an AMD FX-8350 8 Core CPU is detected?
Reindell: CryEngine uses all available cores of a CPU. Still making a game engine that really spreads the work over all cores equally is not that easy. There are quite a few tasks that can run on their own cores but there are also some “big” tasks that need to run on a single core as there is no guarantee of the execution order if code runs on multiple cores simultaneously. The engine definitely benefits from 4+, but the performance increase from 2->4 cores is much higher than the benefit from 4->8 cores.
Ergo: if in doubt, not the hightes amount of cores, but the higher GHz-rate counts. Better a very fast CPU with four or six cores than an octacore with less GHz
Exactly. This is key:
"There are quite a few tasks that can run on their own cores but there are also some “big” tasks that need to run on a single core as there is no guarantee of the execution order if code runs on multiple cores simultaneously."
This is why currently SC only highly uses one core, and the other cores are barely used. Now they will improve this as time and optimisation goes on, but the problem will always remain to some extent. So get that i7 6700k and overclock the crap out of it and you'll have better performance than those who spent £1000 on a 12 thread CPU. Doesn't that make you smile knowingly? :D
"There are quite a few tasks that can run on their own cores but there are also some “big” tasks that need to run on a single core as there is no guarantee of the execution order if code runs on multiple cores simultaneously."
This is why currently SC only highly uses one core, and the other cores are barely used. Now they will improve this as time and optimisation goes on, but the problem will always remain to some extent. So get that i7 6700k and overclock the crap out of it and you'll have better performance than those who spent £1000 on a 12 thread CPU. Doesn't that make you smile knowingly? :D
I was running my first i7 6700k at 4.7 OC for a month on water cooling, temps were low but I think I had the voltages way too high because I got blue screen crashes and windows reporting a bad cpu core. RMA it and got a replacement and have just been running at stock turbo speeds. Still plenty fast though :)
I went for the higher core ghz after reading performance benchmarks between the two.
Yep, I will stay with my AMD8350. Its a good CPU, not as fast as a corresponding Intel CPU, but doing okay with its 4GHZ CPU rate. Bottleneck currently is the GTX960. While its OC, it doesn't meet the requirements of SC. Plan is to buy a new graphics card at the time when SQ42 will be released. Plus a new monitor. 32" it shall be :D
You've got a mistake here. What you insist to be a CPU is actualy a PSU option.
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