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I took a few liberties with your quote. I couldn't help myself. I was truly inspired. Bravo sir... Bravo...
You do me a great honour sir. I will endeavour to restrain myself as much and as often as possible!
 

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You do me a great honour sir. I will endeavour to restrain myself as much and as often as possible!
Wait, we're supposed to restrain ourselves? But, but, I thought that was specifically against the forum rules here at Test. Inspiration at that level should never be restrained, only embraced!

On a more serious note, I did spend a few years using my size and training to make money. That is to say, I was a bouncer and prison guard for a few years (bouncing on the weekend, yay!). I hated both jobs, but one of the many things I learned is that all the badassery (yes, that's a word) in the world doesn't hold a candle to the diffusing ability of saying the right thing at the right time.

Trolls get a bad rep. They are often frowned upon or at the very least, barely tolerated. The truth of the matter is that some times, trolls are the good guy (gal). Sometimes a thread needs to be derailed. Sometimes it is heading in the completely wrong direction and the gas pedal is to the floor. Sometimes, a troll is the only thing that can save it.

So to that I say, do not restrain yourself sir. Your work is for the greater good. You are the hero of this thread. You may not be the hero this thread deserves, but you are the hero this thread needs.

Honestly though, you did an amazing job of describing a forum troll. I'd put that on a t-shirt and wear it.
 

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Wait, we're supposed to restrain ourselves? But, but, I thought that was specifically against the forum rules here at Test. Inspiration at that level should never be restrained, only embraced!

On a more serious note, I did spend a few years using my size and training to make money. That is to say, I was a bouncer and prison guard for a few years (bouncing on the weekend, yay!). I hated both jobs, but one of the many things I learned is that all the badassery (yes, that's a word) in the world doesn't hold a candle to the diffusing ability of saying the right thing at the right time.

Trolls get a bad rep. They are often frowned upon or at the very least, barely tolerated. The truth of the matter is that some times, trolls are the good guy (gal). Sometimes a thread needs to be derailed. Sometimes it is heading in the completely wrong direction and the gas pedal is to the floor. Sometimes, a troll is the only thing that can save it.

So to that I say, do not restrain yourself sir. Your work is for the greater good. You are the hero of this thread. You may not be the hero this thread deserves, but you are the hero this thread needs.

Honestly though, you did an amazing job of describing a forum troll. I'd put that on a t-shirt and wear it.
I am flattered and am sure I do not deserve such praise, however thank you it is much appreciated.

I have some of the skills but none of the malice to be a proper troll, just too many years on forums probably. As Peter Parkers uncle would have said "with great power comes great responsibility" although I wouldn't say I have great power... I just hope I did not offend anyone.

I reckon I'll get 'The Forum Manifesto' put on a mug for use at work :slight_smile:
 

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You have busses up there? I thought y'all had dog sleds. Aren't there dog sleds? I'm so horribly confused. Next thing you know it will turn out Celine Dion is actually from Illinois.
Believe it or not, we have both. And if you're in the right place, you can have both together. Dogs pulling bus sleds!

Who's Celine Dion?








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Who's the dumbass who woke me up in the middle of the night with this shit?!
I've GOT licenses for EVERYTHING in this video not to mention some of it is entirely custom by me


Time to crack the whip at this dumb ass.
 

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Who's the dumbass who woke me up in the middle of the night with this shit?!
I've GOT licenses for EVERYTHING in this video not to mention some of it is entirely custom by me


Time to crack the whip at this dumb ass.
Really quick, which licenses do you have? Because I was looking into this for my robotics team's youtube, and there are about three types of licenses I would need to buy for every song (or at least, have a generic ASCAP license, and then the licenses from the production company and artists for individual use, etc, etc).
 

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Justice prevails!


Really quick, which licenses do you have? Because I was looking into this for my robotics team's youtube, and there are about three types of licenses I would need to buy for every song (or at least, have a generic ASCAP license, and then the licenses from the production company and artists for individual use, etc, etc).
Standard Envato licensing that comes with purchases from VideoHive.net
https://videohive.net/licenses
There's different tiers, one that covers charging people for it and one that doesn't. Both tiers allow monetization (through 3rd party advertising) of end product AFAIK. It's a big mess, but bottom line, when you buy a copy of whatever, you're good to go so long as your not trying to resell the item itself. AFAIK that's how it works for all Envato's item marketplaces (videohive, audiojungle, themeforest, etc)
 

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Gunner as soon as I find out how to send you a PM I will. I looked up NELTV and a few others along the way.And so far this is what I have found. A few "production" enterprises troll you tube looking for content that they think the owner cannot or will not contest a claim on.They are kind of Ad claim jumping. If they get a content creator to go along with the flow then they get your contents ad space for free. They do this to a few thousand people and suddenly the money gets real.

Advice time. When I do commercial work or any collaboration there are set rules. Hopefully Content creators here can use some of the bombs I am about to drop.

Content you create is yours claim it asap. And this is what I mean

If I co-write/ghost write/compose or pen a diddy. then as soon as the product sounds like something we would play drunk and stoned then we put it to track and send it off to our PRO's (Production Rights Organization) I think filmmakers can file under ASCAP. You and other content creators need to find a PRO.

Steps to take before PRO submission

1.Contributors and their share
2.Performing Artists and their share
3.Composers Share
4.Song Writers share
5. Video production shares are similar

This not only gets their work recognized for other jobs/gigs. But it also ensures a written set in stone royalty base as well as copyright usage agreements between the the creating parties.

Your PRO is the 800 pound gorilla that ad sharks don't want to face.

Things to keep forever..
1.Contracts
2.Score Sheets
3.Cut Sheets
4. Original tracks and dubs
5. All related project notes

I worked with a rather well known cat on a sound and he showed me some really good practices. Removable hard drives for each serious production. Everything related to the production including the software and scans of all docs are kept on one drive when the album is finished the drive is cloned to a work drive and then the master drive is pulled and put in a safe. He even records the calls to and from his peeps he calls that collaboration security.
Our media Music/Video are different yet the legal aspects are very similar. Your channel is big enough to attract those third rate jumpers who think that they can grab a piece of your action.

S/F
W9

Edited to add. Do not release the content until your PRO has registered it to you. Once they confirmed and sent you a CAI/CAE number or an ISRC code then release it. Make sure to embed the codes
 

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Gunner as soon as I find out how to send you a PM I will. I looked up NELTV and a few others along the way.And so far this is what I have found. A few "production" enterprises troll you tube looking for content that they think the owner cannot or will not contest a claim on.They are kind of Ad claim jumping. If they get a content creator to go along with the flow then they get your contents ad space for free. They do this to a few thousand people and suddenly the money gets real.

Advice time. When I do commercial work or any collaboration there are set rules. Hopefully Content creators here can use some of the bombs I am about to drop.

Content you create is yours claim it asap. And this is what I mean

If I co-write/ghost write/compose or pen a diddy. then as soon as the product sounds like something we would play drunk and stoned then we put it to track and send it off to our PRO's (Production Rights Organization) I think filmmakers can file under ASCAP. You and other content creators need to find a PRO.

Steps to take before PRO submission

1.Contributors and their share
2.Performing Artists and their share
3.Composers Share
4.Song Writers share
5. Video production shares are similar

This not only gets their work recognized for other jobs/gigs. But it also ensures a written set in stone royalty base as well as copyright usage agreements between the the creating parties.

Your PRO is the 800 pound gorilla that ad sharks don't want to face.

Things to keep forever..
1.Contracts
2.Score Sheets
3.Cut Sheets
4. Original tracks and dubs
5. All related project notes

I worked with a rather well known cat on a sound and he showed me some really good practices. Removable hard drives for each serious production. Everything related to the production including the software and scans of all docs are kept on one drive when the album is finished the drive is cloned to a work drive and then the master drive is pulled and put in a safe. He even records the calls to and from his peeps he calls that collaboration security.
Our media Music/Video are different yet the legal aspects are very similar. Your channel is big enough to attract those third rate jumpers who think that they can grab a piece of your action.

S/F
W9

Edited to add. Do not release the content until your PRO has registered it to you. Once they confirmed and sent you a CAI/CAE number or an ISRC code then release it. Make sure to embed the codes
Something we can all learn from in this Internet Age. Iused to be on a photo magazine forum, we had a monthly competition. I came runner-up three times and got myself a few mugs I still hold fondly...

Those pictures once online though...

Using image search, I found one being used as an avatar by a blogger who specialised in soft-core erotic fiction (it was a picture of a pen), and one was used by a Radiology Twitter to do a general hello out to their followers... More of an exposure than I had expected, to be honest.

As far as I have had my images used without my consent (to my knowledge) that is really really good, search Youtube for "Stolen Scream" and you get an awesome mini-documentary (10 mins) about a guy who's picture went viral without him realising, appearing on t-shirts, book covers, art, and even became an image tagged with spray-paint on walls to protest a government.

Nothing is safe online, but how else are we to get it out there?
 
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