Intel Optane 900D SSD Optimised for Star Citizen

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  1. Xist

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    NVMe SSDs (whether PCI or M.2) are also much faster (lower access times) than traditional SSDs. Optane won't improve over those speeds from what I have read. It's just an alternative and it adds a caching later which again is not all that useful for game/data drives.
     
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    Indeed. Optane will most likely be on par with proper NVMe SSDs. But probably more expensive :P
     
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    Which means save the money & invest in more ships. ;p
     
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    Imo, it's both good marketing, & encouraging.

    -But this is what caught my attention.
    From Linus's video: 3:00 -ish
    "So controller inputs from cloud games could go in & out more quickly & reliably, if these enterprises started using optane"

    One might assume that if Mr. Robert's is planning on utilizing optane tech- this may figure somewhat into meshing "optimization"
    ......if "aggressive latency requirements" are necessary.
    (optimization -a word which I suspect will become very popular in S.C. threaddage)

    I imagine by the time S.C. is fully server meshed/optimized,
    the cost of optane drives may be cheaper & much more necessary.
     
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    So meanwhile, back in 2015.....there was apparently an article which had this tagline:
    "Star Citizen maker says Intel’s Optane memory will be ‘revolutionary’ for gaming — and kill loading screens"
    Article about commentary from an Intel Developer Forum, circa 2015:
    https://venturebeat.com/2015/08/18/...tane-memory-will-be-revolutionary-for-gaming/
    But there have also been a few articles basically saying "meh" & that it's only use is to to beef-up traditional disc drives, etc......

    Looking forward to seeing what the fuss is all about, on the 27th.
    -from a recent "leaked" document found somewhere in Frankfurt.
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    "The Optane SSD 900P devices are made in the formats of 2.5-inch U.2 SSD and PCI Express expansion cards with a bandwidth of 32 Gbps (four lines of PCI-E 3.0). At the heart of the drives is the memory of 3D XPoint, which, together with the Intel proprietary controller, provides peak performance of 550,000 IOPS on reading and 500,000 IOPS when writing data. The maximum sequential read and write speeds are 2.5 GB / s and 2 GB / s, respectively."


    mmmmmmm, Frankfurters,Ima go make a hot dog.
     
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    I still try to understand usecase, and still fail. From personal experience - switching from good ssd to great m2 didn't bring noticeable difference in games/os loading etc. ( the great exception is synthetic tests ) ... so Optane would be nice for people who (for some strange reason) are still using hdd ... but that's it
     
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    That's what I figured so pretty much NVMe then I guess it will depend on the speeds they offer and the SC bonus if any.
     
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    My guess. CIG is has intel for the server end processing and intel is trying to leverage that into the gamer side sales... Wouldn't be surprised if there is a contract in there saying they can do this kinda thing. Like the game servers are optane powered and we need the tech too.... eh, seems to run according to plan on my machine without it though lol.
     
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    Pay no attention to that. It's all just marketing.

    Exactly.
     
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    This,prettymuch.
    It would have to be priced to beat a Samsung imo, & I suspect it will be much more expensive, but will sport some cool SC branding & swaggage.

    Maybe it will come bound with a new concept ship.

    "The Samsung 960 PRO delivers peak sequential read and write transfer speeds of 3,500 MB/s and 2,100 MB/s, respectively, and random read and write IOPS of up to 440,000 and 360,000.1"

    =100k less iops, & won't cost a limb.

    I'm going to play the finished game to earn any more ships (past what I already have) & get some desperately needed new hardware now.
     
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    A coworker that actually knows this stuff says optane is ended towards low latency, having almost no ramp-up time and able to use it's full performance even with low queue depths. It's also supposed to be able keep the response times very low under heavy loads.

    I'd say this is super awesome.. for server hardware :smile: not so much for consumer hardware ;P
     
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    You might be onto something there. After all, they did do an AMD variant with special paint job for the pairing with the video cards in the NEVER SETTLE IN SPACE EDITION Mustang R9 Omega. Maybe Intel will be getting their own version of an RSI Aurora? I'll call it the RSI Aurora IS. Which will be a racing edition vehicle with better maneuvering thrusters at the expense of all luxury features as well as having only 2 S1 weapons & a maximum of an S1 shield. It will be the fastest Aurora ever that will explode on impact with anything it bumps into. Seems fitting to me.
     
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    My thoughts on the whole "optimized for star citizen" is that if you purchase this drive you get a test colored Aurora equipped with a limitless self-refilling keg. I think that would be just about optimized. Thoughts?
     
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    I had a thought, CIG has a game-changer ship... the Intel server node hopper, your new local servership for transponding sensitive org data, like the new brew recipes. I thought this was a good comment of mine, now it looks silly in retrospect.
     
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    CIG is sponsored by Intel Optane - all their dev PC's got them in and also PCS they use to demo / shows etc.

    Now - if and how they are optimised for SC is a whole nother question!
     
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    Butuz- I feel slightly more educated, and in my case this sponsorship/advertising is working in raising my awareness of the brand
     
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    Some possible bad news, here.....RGB will probably be on the AIC drives:
    9:30 of this video mentions the SC Intel 900P I'm a little frightened of the possibilities.




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    Perhaps the entire SC / Intel optimization is simply that the 3.0 builds at CIG are on Intel optimized PCs for game development. Not that it will actually help any of the rest of us other than we get 3.0 slightly more quickly.
     
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    I read somewhere that the software for the enterprise edition drive DC4800X is quite expensive by itself. 1950.00 usd, I think it was.

    I wonder how software dependent these drives will be, & if that is perhaps the optimizable element.

    (Aside from you know, a themed heatspreader with a rainbowed-out LED Drake Enterprises logo on it)
     
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