My original PC built for Star Citizen in 2013 finally died

[Lorddarthvik]

My old 4770k is still going well, I kept it liquid cooled though. Still upgraded, but I could probably put it back together...

Cool!

These modern PCs can basically live until the caps blow on the mobo or you really fry em with heat/powerspikes.
The worst thing one can do to an old PC is to remove the mobo from the case. With age, heat, and the weight of the cooler, they deform slightly, and when you release the pressure by unscrewing it, they bend back and crack lines in the PCB. Second worst thing, and way more common yet rarely as destructive, for the same reason is removing a big ass heavy cooler after years of it pulling on the mobo.

 

[Montoya]

Cool!

These modern PCs can basically live until the caps blow on the mobo or you really fry em with heat/powerspikes.
The worst thing one can do to an old PC is to remove the mobo from the case. With age, heat, and the weight of the cooler, they deform slightly, and when you release the pressure by unscrewing it, they bend back and crack lines in the PCB. Second worst thing, and way more common yet rarely as destructive, for the same reason is removing a big ass heavy cooler after years of it pulling on the mobo.

Right.

Like the blue piece of plastic in my picture. It was the retaining clip part of the PCIE slot. It simply snapped off with almost no pressure.

 

[Sirus7264]

The year was 2013.

An exciting new game was just over the horizon, it was going to be called Star Citizen!

To play the Hangar module, I would need a really beefy(er) PC, so I scraped together the money I had and with the help of some generous members of TEST, managed to put together a budget build.

A few years later my son was born, I had upgraded by then and this PC became his. That little AMD 270x GPU worked pretty well for his gaming needs until this week when it finally died.

I forgot what CPU was in there, but like all the old AMD chips, it ran HOT!

I originally had 8gb of RAM which was upgraded to 16gb somewhere along the line.

This thing pumped out a lot of heat and warmed the room up nicely in the winter!

In the summer it had fans running at 100% speed all day and kept the room at sauna like temperatures! :D

RIP little AMD build, you served us well!


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Oh and the plastic clip holding the GPU was so brittle, it simply snapped off when I tried to take out the GPU :D

damn that blows if you can wait till next month you can attempt to get a 3080ti for 900 usd then get the rest of your build somewhere.

 

[Grimbli]

get a 3080ti for 900 usd

 

[Montoya]

damn that blows if you can wait till next month you can attempt to get a 3080ti for 900 usd then get the rest of your build somewhere.

What happens next month that will drop prices of 3080ti's by $2000?

 

[Radegast74]

I built my current system awhile back hoping to answer the call when SQ42 hits beta. Oops

Premature sytembuildification...

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

What happens next month that will drop prices of 3080ti's by $2000?

The price will go up by $3000.

 

[Cugino83]

What happens next month that will drop prices of 3080ti's by $2000?

Probably this?

Need a GeForce RTX 3000 GPU? GameStop Can Hook You Up

GameStop has started selling GPUs and other hardware.

www.tomshardware.com

Let's be honest: expected prices are scalping level and expected availability negletable.... plus I rather wait another year then buying something at GameStop...

 

[Ploeperpengel]

I remember discussing with other TESTies in 2014 about the impossible specs we need to run this game at a good framerate.

The 1080ti seemed like the answer we needed when it came out, but the current 3000 gen took such massive leaps in price and performance, I think its safe to say we are there.

If 4K is all you want the 3080 seems to be the sweetspot indeed. But since the bigger brother 3090 borders on being the first 8K card (with almost stable 30 fps) I think it might be worth the wait for the next generation that might introduce true 8K gaming. Since cards aren't available the waiting will happen anyway ;)
The 1080 is still good enough for me for most stuff I play so the waiting won't be too hard :)

 

[BUTUZ]

Sorry to hear that lord Montoya.

Do a PC custom build video on YouTube with a yellow case!! the million views will pay for it!!!

 

[Montoya]

Probably this?

Need a GeForce RTX 3000 GPU? GameStop Can Hook You Up

GameStop has started selling GPUs and other hardware.

www.tomshardware.com

Let's be honest: expected prices are scalping level and expected availability negletable.... plus I rather wait another year then buying something at GameStop...

Right, because Gamestop of all possible PC part suppliers has access to a magical stash of 3000 Series GPUs that none of the current stores have access to :D

 

[Sirus7264]

What happens next month that will drop prices of 3080ti's by $2000?

The 3080ti hasnt been released yet it was supposed to come out next month.....sadly........though it got pushed back as of yesterday lol. so it looks like may release now? the 3070ti in june? I heard they are going to put some sort of limiter or the 3080ti to prevent them from being used as miner cards but yeah i'm sure that wont help.

 

[Sirus7264]

What happens next month that will drop prices of 3080ti's by $2000?

next best option to get a 30 series card though is buy a prebuild like from ibuypower then sell all the other components off(or use them). ibuypower has a 3week preorder on them and i heard it is actually working. there are other companies you can do prebuild with to.

 

[Montoya]

next best option to get a 30 series card though is buy a prebuild like from ibuypower then sell all the other components off(or use them). ibuypower has a 3week preorder on them and i heard it is actually working. there are other companies you can do prebuild with to.

Saw a guy do that on r/pcmr, he get a prebuilt for $4000 because a 3090 on its own would cost $3000 atm.

 

[Grimbli]

GamesStop offering cards will do nothing, all retailer are vying for the same limited stock, so it'll just make it harder to snag a card since each retailer will now have less stock due to GS getting in on the action. Unless GS really are changing everything about their business to be truly "For the Gamers" and offer a queue system like EVGA did, then it'll be the same crap.

The root cause of this needs to be addressed if it's ever to get back to normal. The queue was a good idea, but it needs to go further. A type of preorder needs to be established where they can collect all of the orders, weed out as many scalpers as possible, and then confirm and charge those who are buying. I don't see how that's possible though. If you only allow a single person/address to buy a single card from each shop people will go to every retailer selling them and buy one. And what if they're limited to a single card of each type? One person/address could still buy dozens of cards through the sign up phase.

Not to mention the scalpers and large miners have literally hundreds of people they can use to buy cards through and funnel back to them. Some sellers on Amazon do this shit, they say they'll give you money if you buy their product and leave a review. As long as mining is profitable this is going to be impossible. And if every single card was used for gaming it'll still be very difficult, because the scalpers have moved into the GPU market. They've been in gaming consoles for years now, they just noticed graphic cards are very similar.

 

[Cugino83]

The problem with the supply is due, very likely, mainly to the COVID situation: there is a lot of people that find them self confined at home, with extra cash and freetime and they are investing those money into gaming rigs.
Not only but also a lots of people are now working from home, so the old pc that was the "family pc" now fall short for all the family member, with kids that need it to attend lessons and parents that need it to work, that coused an increse in demand of ALL PC components, GPU and CPU alike, for either update the pc or build/buy new ones.
In addition lots of gamers skip the NVidia 2000 series do to the "bad" performance/price increase ratio over the 1000 series... and now theyr looking for the 3000 series cousing a domand increase.
Sma thing I suppose for the CPU: the new Ryzen really rock so more and more people are now looking ot upgrade theyr old rig... again more demand.

Looking past the PC market there is the automotive market, with an incease demand of components for and increase production request (since, surprise, noone whant to use a puplic trasport during a pandemic...)... guess what's needed for cars: chipset for the ECU and others features.

And the problem is that the producer of those component are all the same: TSMC, Global foundaries, Samsung and eventually Intel.
Considering the shortage of producer, reaching the saturation of production capacity isn't that difficult and even other component manifacturer (you know, resitors, connectiors etc...) are very likely facing production problem both for a saturation of the produtcion line and a shortage of raw material.

At the end is noot a single couse you can point your finger at and solve, is a conglomerate mess and it will be solved in the long long run while the demand will both decrease or be slowly fullfill.

 

[Sirus7264]

Saw a guy do that on r/pcmr, he get a prebuilt for $4000 because a 3090 on its own would cost $3000 atm.

yeah looks like the scalpers are already catching on and preorders are starting to increase lead times. Ibuypower is now at 6weeks preorder for 3080 i hope when Nvidea rolls out the TI they do it a bit more smart than they did the 30 series maybe make them available on their sites where you need to use a drivers license or state id?

 

[August]

I'm pretty confident the only way to replace stuff now is through pre-built systems. Parts are too hard to get hold of.