Perseus!

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I thought the Perseus had two big dorsal turrets but turns out one is ventral, so given the expected armor this may be perfect to fly in over a battlefield and own everyone. I don’t see how tonks and Ballistas can resist such formidable guns.
 
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Note it is now in erkul. 6 point defense weapons seems to me will be nerfed.

The cargo bay looks large enough for a Nursa, an MTC and several Nox—a whole ground force.

The armory is so welcome, and really nice. Huge step up from what CIG promised, same as the turrets, which are now size 8.

Note the Polaris is significantly quieter than this ship, especially when you start turning stuff off. This ship is NOT designed to play cat and mouse. No hiding.

I absolutely love this ship, but the question whether the point defense will or will not be nerfed makes all the difference. If it is seriously proof against torps, it is survivable through a host of situations, which seems a little OP.

The guy making this vid wants CIG to change it so this ship can survive a couple hits from the Idris railgun. Fat chance of that. This is for bullying smaller ships, and maybe the Polaris, but it is not intended to go toe to toe with ships of the line like the Idris.
View: https://youtu.be/ci0uC_aQnR0?si=pI8QOHMf-fiebDZs
 
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Note it is now in erkul. 6 point defense weapons seems to me will be nerfed.

The cargo bay looks large enough for a Nursa, an MTC and several Nox—a whole ground force.

The armory is so welcome, and really nice. Huge step up from what CIG promised, same as the turrets, which are now size 8.

Note the Polaris is significantly quieter than this ship, especially when you start turning stuff off. This ship is NOT designed to play cat and mouse. No hiding.

I absolutely love this ship, but the question whether the point defense will or will not be nerfed makes all the difference. If it is seriously proof against torps, it is survivable through a host of situations, which seems a little OP.

The guy making this vid wants CIG to change it so this ship can survive a couple hits from the Idris railgun. Fat chance of that. This is for bullying smaller ships, and maybe the Polaris, but it is not intended to go toe to toe with ships of the line like the Idris.
View: https://youtu.be/ci0uC_aQnR0?si=pI8QOHMf-fiebDZs
I mean, if it can get one shot by an idris, and anything smaller than a Connie can outrun it, it’s not too OP right? Seems like a bit of a glass cannon to me.

CIG enlargement strikes again, with the turrets now appearing a little oversized to the body of the ship, which makes me sad, but at least it didn’t get the carrack treatment.

Overall, looks pretty good imo!
 

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800 m/s projectile speed with max range theoretically being 5600, but what can you hit 7 seconds away? That's a lot of time for any ship to clear the, at most, couple dozen meters they need to shift upwards or downwards to evade the shot. That max range is purely theoretical, realistically you'll need to get to like 2km if you want to hit anything that has its engines on.
 

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Technically, the Idris rail gun cannot one-shot the Perseus. The rail gun does 288k damage and the Perseus has 389k hp. However, the rail gun destroys whatever components it contacts and has extreme penetration. So while it will destroy part of the ship with each hit, that part of the ship may remain albeit, out of service. We’ll need to wait and see.

Try to keep in mind the Perseus is a Gunship, not a Corvette. It has something like 1/10 the HP of a Corvette. A gun so big it won’t even fit on a corvette really ought to be able to take it out very quickly. Perseus is by far the most durable of the Gunships, but that is still two classes below a Frigate.

People are missing the real issue. It is a gunship that appears was made invulnerable to torps. This is a huge, big deal. It was only a smallish departure from stated design to put point defense on Frigates and a little more departure to put it on Corvettes. Now it’s on Gunships. One starts to wonder what torps are good for. Seems relatively little.

This feels like a bigger class than the HH, Tally and Redeemer, because of the 6 point defense guns. It feels like it could go into a real naval battle and doctrine is, Corvettes are too small for this and only go into serious battle out of most severe need, and expecting to lose them. I think the Perseus needs to have at least half its point defense guns removed. This is severe power creep.

So just to be clear: the Frigate class is supposed to be the smallest “ship of the line”, able to go into naval slugfests. Navies only put Corvettes into slugfests out of desperation. Certainly gunships do not belong facing off against Frigates.
 
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