TEST challenge coins?

What type of challenge coin would you be willing to pay for? see link for pricing


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NKato

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Do a Kickstarter for 300 coins and 3D molding would be at no charge!
3D molding and die casting are different things. The fee is waived for setup expenses at 300 and up.

If we did a kickstarter at $10 a coin, we'd be able to have an inventory for storefront sales and spares.

Say we want to have 100 made of the last item quoted, unit cost is $4, and total is $650. We'd need to get at least 65 backers in the $10 bracket on kickstarter to pay for the lot.

This is where kickstarter gets good: we can easily scale our order according to the number of backer coins ordered. We'll also need to account for the kickstarter cut of the money and shipping expenses in the final math.

Assuming Montoya approves of the kickstarteridea, our biggest challenge now is getting a design made and asking for an accurate quote based on those specs.
 

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A concern about Kickstarter. ADI (or whatever org hates us right now) could have members pledge with empty pre-paid cards. This could easily make the project successful, meaning that you're on the hook for everything (not that TEST members wouldn't understand, but if trolls or random people placed a few actual orders in the mix of all the fake ones they could feasibly be a real pain in the ass). Then, Kickstarter will still take their cut of 5%, plus the payment processor takes ~3% + 20 cents per transaction (which would be less than 20 dollars by my rough calculations which hardly makes a difference overall, but still has to be factored) so if you find yourself being forced to give refunds someone has to eat those costs.

I get that that sounds like my tin-foil hat is too tight, but I wouldn't put it past the haters to do everything they can to try and make us fail at every opportunity. Especially if it's going to cost our members real money. I'm not against the idea of a kickstarter, but there might be other options that are less prone to trolling.

I'm ok with a 1.75" coin, but would definitely prefer the 2". A US silver dollar is 1.5" inches and that could feel pretty dinky. A 2" coin will look amazing in a display as well.

What is the thickness of the coins? That will make a difference. If they're very thick then a 2" coin might simply be too big.
 

NKato

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A concern about Kickstarter. ADI (or whatever org hates us right now) could have members pledge with empty pre-paid cards. This could easily make the project successful, meaning that you're on the hook for everything (not that TEST members wouldn't understand, but if trolls or random people placed a few actual orders in the mix of all the fake ones they could feasibly be a real pain in the ass). Then, Kickstarter will still take their cut of 5%, plus the payment processor takes ~3% + 20 cents per transaction (which would be less than 20 dollars by my rough calculations which hardly makes a difference overall, but still has to be factored) so if you find yourself being forced to give refunds someone has to eat those costs.

I get that that sounds like my tin-foil hat is too tight, but I wouldn't put it past the haters to do everything they can to try and make us fail at every opportunity. Especially if it's going to cost our members real money. I'm not against the idea of a kickstarter, but there might be other options that are less prone to trolling.

I'm ok with a 1.75" coin, but would definitely prefer the 2". A US silver dollar is 1.5" inches and that could feel pretty dinky. A 2" coin will look amazing in a display as well.

What is the thickness of the coins? That will make a difference. If they're very thick then a 2" coin might simply be too big.
What youdescribed can be considered wire fraud. That's a federal felony in the United States.
 

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True, but that's hard to prove and considering the scale of what we're doing it's unlikely that anything would be pursued. Like I said, I'm aware it's sounding like I'm hyper-paranoid about other orgs doing shitty things, but if we aren't yet married to the idea of Kickstarter then we shouldn't exclude other options. :)
 
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Hi guys!

Thank you for your interest in getting a TEST coin made!

Im glad to see there is so much interest so I will be following up on the individuals on this thread and the staff.

At this time I would like to put a hold on this thread because all this kickstarting shit is over complicating what is a very simple process.

This is how I will do it:

1) Create 3-4 samples
2) Run a poll asking which one we all prefer
3) Sell the coins
4) Get laid

Thats it.

Thread temporarily closed until we are ready to move forward.
 
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