Why would i give someone the chance to even attempt to fight back? It is player versus a player, this has no other meaning.
If we are defining things, then technically you are not in a PvP environment, you are in the PU. What you call PvP could be argued to be a consequence of the interactivity the PU allows between players. I think the WHOLE of the PU should be "PvP", no PvE areas at all. in other words a reflection of reality, interaction with all players in all places... So just like in reality you could be stood outside a grocery store planing what to buy inside, or you could be stood outside a grocery store with a baseball bat smashing up the cars of the customers inside. Real life is not PvP and the PU aims to be a real life of sorts, hence the long discussed PermaDeath.
The PU offers many things at present but there will be many more in future. Many of the features that come in the future you may think are designed to take PvP away from you, but the PU was never strictly PvP in the sense that the only objective is that there are other people wishing you harm. That is just delusional and paranoid and you may as well make a tinfoil hat and hide under the stairs whenever an icecream van drives buy in cse they are monitoring your thoughts again. There will be traders, miners, explorers - players who have no interest in blowing someones head off for fun and the PU when finished will have a balance which makes simply saying "Its the PvP, everyone is out to kill each other" is so misunderstanding what the PU is (wilfully or otherwise) to almost miss the point of being in the PU entirely.
Camping is not a Pirate tactic. Its an Anarchist tactic for the antisocial. Want to stop people playing with you? This pad has so many ships to destroy you'll be forever alone.
Question 1: a) Would you camp Olisar if the Peaceful Zone was not there? b) What do you plan to do when the long awaited Perma Death mechanic arrives and your camping hobby does real damage to your experience of the game?
If he is on the ground with a pistol and im using a capital ship to bombard him. It is still me versus him whether he likes it or not or thinks it is fair. If there are fixes or things to prevent this so be it, he isnt attacking the mechanics of the game he is attacking a play style that is 100% legitimate.
Again, he is not on the ground with a pistol, he is in the centre of a complex at a computer screen. He is no where near coming out of the airlock with a pistol or otherwise. There is no PvP without a vP. You are right PvP is totally legitimate playstyle however without any Verses it is just a Prison Simulator. Perhaps the pleasure of this tactic is having power over people?
So, Question 2: What if when the person you are holding captive quits, the game glitches and just respawns that ship over and over again? What are you doing? PvP? The other player has gone, you are just sat there shooting a ship with no owner thinking you have the advantage over nothing more than ghosts. Ask yourself, is the other player still there? Is that PvP? And if not, what is the difference between that and having another player stuck behind the airlock door? (This question open to everyone for discussion)
Your definition of PvP only becomes a reality when you have a chance to fight back, my definition of PvP is why even give you the chance to fight. Win at all cost establish dominance by all means through oppression. Complete and utter destruction.
See question 2. Are you PvPing? No, you are not, because how do you know there is anyone still there? How do you know you have not been ported to an instance set up to deal with Campers with auto spawning ships? To use a crude analogy, concentual sex with a partner is a bonding experience, where two people come together for mutual enjoyment. Masturbation, although it feels good, is a totally self serving act where you are out to get pleasure just for yourself. Camping is an act of self-serving masturbation where you are forcing people to watch you :eek: Has the game glitched? Would you still get the enjoyment of blowing up empty ship after empty ship if there was no one there to watch you?
If I shoot someone in the back and they cant see me that is still legitimate PvP. Just royally sucks to be you that day in that location. If i'm bounty hunting, do I wait for my prey to get into a ship so he can fight back? No, I kill him before he even gets a chance, if I want to kill someone I will never let them have a chance to win. It is fair play to play this way.
Remember it being the PU - Do bounty hunters in reality get away with killing their subjects? If you check it out, there are very few "Dead Or Alive" contracts these days. If you want to be an Assassin, those are the jobs you are talking about but they tend to attract the attention of bounty hunters and that mechanic has not yet been placed in the PU... but then i have never heard of any Assassin who sat there and blew up empty cars all day long... Or any bounty hunter... or any PvPer for that matter... Never seen anyone on GTA V Online blowing up empty cars when they could be killing each other.
