Whats to stop Lawyers from doing that now?
Video: Net Neutrality is gone, where do we go from here?
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When engineers and lawyers work together we build great things.
Nothing, but the engineers have more room to move. Less of a target. The attack surface has been reduced.
But that's literally what net neutrality did, get rid of the lawyers. Now that it's gone, it'll be run by 'lawyers, accountants and bureaucrats' again. How can he even say that with a straight face?
Not that Canada's got too much to worry about, nobody's seriously considering getting rid of it in Canada right now. Then again, I really don't want my Netflix prices to go up. And if ISPs start charging money to MMOs, that would really suck.
It is pound for pound (kb per kb) consumption.... people are going to find better ways to stream content or play internet space ship games... Like the netcode... due to known limitations, we have to find better ways to deal with them. Moore's law still applies.
You're Canadian! - FCC does not apply to you. Again, I'd say work within your community to make things better.
I can't tell if you're trolling or not...
Ajit Pai literally just put the US internet under the complete and total control of ISP executives whose only interest is maximizing their own profits. Nobody else has any say in it BUT bureaucrats anymore which is the sad irony.
And what stopped them from doing this when Net Neutrality existed?
Surely if a van can carry 200sqft of space and everyones packages are 1ft by 1ft and everyone gets 10sqft of space in the van, it can only carry 200 packages 10 from each person, but if I get the same amount of content into a 1/2ft by 1/2ft box I can get 20 boxes on that van with my allocation of space making it better for my recipients...
So how, exactly, did Net Neutrality stop engineers, entrepreneurs and consumers from doing this and benefiting from the efficiencies created in the first place?
The "squeeze"... now innovators are going to have to find ways to do more with less.
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Look, mate, FCC doesn't apply in Canada, and sure, Canadian ISPs can't do it, but that doesn't matter when the vast majority of websites and internet companies are based in the US. Hell, imagine if CIG had to start paying extra to ISPs, ship prices are already high enough :)
On the other hand, if that did happen, it would probably mean more concept sales. Hmmmmm...
Seriously though, I've been looking for solid arguments against net neutrality, and I can't seem to find any. I mean, the vast majority of articles/websites are for it, but even on the ones against it, they've only got 2 or 3 arguments, all of which have gaping holes in them.
Does anyone have any (logical) reasons not to have net neutrality?
I hate trolling... but I am a little bored today... so I'm being the devil's advocate. Just want people to understand the sky is not falling. I'm not trying to mean or disingenuous. There are people fighting for food so they can live another day.... and here we are in the first world fighting about the internet - Something that only came to life in the last 30 years - since AOL and such
That was the complaint with Net Neutrality, that as everyone had an equil share of the bandwidth things slowed down. They had the opportunity to innovate for that, to do more with less, did they?
Whether or not we have net neutrality does pale in comparison to the struggle for survival. 100% agreed. :)
Lets also remember the inevitable heat death of the universe.
But for now, net neutrality is the topic.
But for now, net neutrality is the topic.
Just one thing. You do have something to worry about, just less than Americans. In Canada, the CRTC has enacted rules that protect consumers against unilateral actions by monopoly carriers on it's own, and against the wishes of companies like Bell Canada, Telus, Rogers and Shaw. They implemented additional rules around 'traffic shaping" just this year.
What was amazing is that the CRTC started enacting these rules a long time before anyone ever heard about Net Neutrality. That's why you still have independent ISP's, for one, even though they use the same hardware and network as Bell Canada and Telus. The problem is though, that they are just rules - there is no legislation backing the freedoms.
I am delighted you are taking a contrary stance, it gives me the most wonderful practice and it would simply be a boring echo chamber if we all agreed on everything. If I wanted that i'd post a picture of my lunch on Facebook and lap up the applause.
In regard to people living hand-to-mouth in the first-world, the repeal of Net Neutrality may be just another kick in the teeth. The last thing they need is a higher bill just to get basic access to what may be at best the only escapism they may get in a day and at worst a vital life-line to information and regular contact with loved ones via things like Skype and Facetime.
Please answer my above question, unless you'd like to stop. I have enjoyed our conversation and thanks once again for being a counterpoint, you have helped keep this on-subject and calm however it feels like my line of questioning is petering out a little.
In summery: the answer to my original question "What I don't see in that video is what it is actually going to do. What's it going to do?" seems to be "Nothing, except squeeze."
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I'm all in favor of net neutrality but this is a terrible law if you go and check it out.
technology will bring us massively available bandwidth over public spectrum, rendering the net neutrality issue moot
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