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I just have to say something, I suppose... from one cynical person to another... why can't SC succeed? It is a new model, new territory, this is called INNOVATION... and this is what we love about "our" SC. Seems like those folks can go back to play EVE and World of War Craft - they are lost in the past - year 2004 - seems to me - their little brain can not fathom the scale of SC, maybe they are hedging their bets to say "I told you so"... either way, some people can not be content without complaining about this or that. I've put so much more money in SC than EVE could have ever gotten from me. Just my .02 cents. Believe me, I could rail about how crappy Eve is all day... but we don't do that.



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I watched some of the Youtubes that was some Elite Dangerous faction engaging some flying Yucca plant looking thing called a Thargoid or something, it was embarrassing in terms of dynamic combat, it was nothing like what we have had in the Alpha version of SC, literally incomparable and basically unwatchable.

I can watch SC Youtubes all day, I suffered through a 15 minute fight between 3 ships and a flying Yucca, like some low-fidelity dogfight sim from the 90's - Tachyon: The Fringe (circa 2000) was better, and not just because the one and only Bruce Campbell voiced your character.

Truly ridiculous comparison IMO.

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I watched some of the Youtubes that was some Elite Dangerous faction engaging some flying Yucca plant looking thing called a Thargoid or something, it was embarrassing in terms of dynamic combat
Ill have to disagree with you on that.

Combat is Elite Dangerous is very much a rock-paper-scissors event.

Its a balance between shield, armor, offensive and defensive weapons, while balancing energy usage between engines, shields, and guns.

To a person on the outside with know knowledge of this, it may look pretty bland, but for ED players its a lot more interesting!

Eg if I build my ship to be shield heavy, you can strip my shields fast with laser weapons.

If you did not equip laser weapons, I will dominate you.

But if you did bring heavy lasers, my shields will be gone in a few seconds and you get to blow me up!

It gets a lot more complicated!
 

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I respect your opinion and direct experience Glorious Leader - but the only thing that I thought was interesting in that combat was the player having to divert attention from combat to repair, THAT was an interesting dynamic that I know we'll eventually get in SC - the rest seemed like a throwback graphically/tactically, just WWI dogfighting, in space, with graphics from a decade or more ago.

From what I saw in the video, SC is already superior in terms of atmosphere, graphics, sound design, player interaction and it seems general flight model as well.

You are correct I have not tried to play ED and it is because the videos I have seen just seem overly grindy and very primitive in terms of actual combat with far too much drama/meta.

Where SC willl succeed, IMO, far beyond ED, is in striking a balance between complexity of gameplay, and immersion - since SC is already far more engaging - to me at least.

Thanks for the 'splanation though, I appreciate it.

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Loved the video.
Btw was watching Totalbiscuit podcast with AngryJoe, they were making snarky remarks about Star Citizen as well. Same crap really. It's like they don't have original idea of their own, much like main stream media. Don't have time stamps for remarks, but here is full podcast.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2u203-dNM
OMG... how could you watch these people for for than 30 seconds.
 
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