I never gave the Tonk any thought when it came out, but since the Ballista is out, having some Nova tanks on the prowl starts creating some interesting ground game.
The Ballista makes me more excited for the Tonk!
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The Barista definitely draws a line between ground and air. Perhaps the Nova (I don't need to make a funny name out of the No Va due to what it means in Spanish) is going to be a decent siege weapon?
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DontTouchMyHoHos
Space Marshal
As long as they dont add artillery. In every game the great unbalancer is always artillery
Radegast74
Space Marshal
Apropos of nothing, I really have *NO* interest in doing anything on the ground, other than some off-road shredding in a Cyclone or Ranger.
Ground combat or FPS? I have zero interest...
Ground combat or FPS? I have zero interest...
Thats cool. I have yet to decide what I might end up being good at in the 'Verse but ground attack seems to be something that appeals. Well, until the Barista came along anyway!
I just want to see a convoy of Nova's and Ballista's crossing the ground
Lol and yet they stated yesterday that it can do artillery.
Honestly, I just look forward to seeing Hercules and Valkyrie's hot dropping ground troops to push forward on a contested mining colony for the money.
I don’t have either but agree a Nova might be a good addition to the fleet. I’m not keen on standing around waiting to be attacked, but the tank isn’t limited to that sort of gameplay.
Ballista could make for interesting space game as well. Just imagine you're in a hercules transporting a couple of ballistas, and some pesky raiders appear. Now, Hercules doesn't have it's own missiles, but if you open the cargo bay door, you'll have a nifty backwards-facing missile turret right there.
Or just drop the ballista in space, standalone missile platform. It'll work. Probably. Before being blown to bits.
Or just drop the ballista in space, standalone missile platform. It'll work. Probably. Before being blown to bits.
Speedkills
Admiral
The only thing that concerns me is the cost to maintain the amount of missiles I would be firing. I currently have a Cyclone AA, so I'm not without a means to hurt something ground to air... but the Ballista would hurt that much more.
How long is the sale going to be running for? Maybe I'll have to drop a bill to get one.
How long is the sale going to be running for? Maybe I'll have to drop a bill to get one.
ShakyWater
Vice Admiral
Don't get bogged down in ground wars against the sand people. Nuke them from orbit and move on.
So I discovered there was a special coloured Ballista for concierge.
I have poor impulse control.
I have poor impulse control.
Not a herc, but put a few on the deck of a Kraken and things could get interesting..
As these missile turrets exist on the back of a vehicle, I can see zero reason why they would not be able to exist on the turret mounts of your favorite cap ship.
Thinking about it the Endeavor with eight Baristas parked in the hangar could deliver some serious long-range Pew.
Is there any current way to transport the Ballista in any of the larger ships?
Shadow Reaper
Space Marshal
I agree, and I think it has several other creative uses besides. Certainly up until now we would have expected any ship that comes in over the battlefield to reign unchallenged due to the heavier shields, hull and firepower values of ships over vehicles. Until now the best way to kill a tank was probably any ship with a big gun facing downward. Any of the Vanguards would make decent tank killers. Now however, with these big missiles, any ship that gets down on the deck is seriously threatened. Looks to me this alone creates an interesting series of trades and balances.
I'm curious what you mean and how that has worked out in the past. I think artillery is a game changer. Especially in TEST and SC where we have at our disposal almost unlimited human resources, but significant limits how many ships can play together--if vehicles are not counted in that number, then heavy firepower vehicles able to knock down ships become very potent. You can imagine the consequences of half dozen Ballista on the surface for any engagement. The key limit is the number of players available, and TEST has that in spades. I think though, we will probably not see missiles as an effective anti-personnel weapon. They're too expensive. You really want tanks against foot soldiers.
My question too. The only ship I can think of in game now that might haul it is the Reclaimer. Would love to see a test of this. In the future I would not be surprised if the Carrack, BMM and Idris can carry it, and certainly the Hurc will. Also IIRC, there was talk that a sled would be available for the Tonk that would allow it to be carried by the Hull series C and below (those that can land).
There is no way the reclaimer can carry it. You can barely get an URSA on the ramp that lowers from the rear.