[CONCERN] What if he was right?

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I want to say this isn't the first time Sandi has pissed people off. Is it possible that she is ripping this game apart with her abrasive personality? I mean, she's not even a GAMER. She's from the FASHION industry. Beside affiliation with CR what the hell were her qualifications?
This is so far unsubstantiated. Granted people can and very often do get pissed off in an office environment but what DS is implying is that there is verbal abuse going on. Given his track record I wouldn't put much stock into it.
 

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I mean, she's not even a GAMER. She's from the FASHION industry. Beside affiliation with CR what the hell were her qualifications?
I've known some fantastic VG marketing/community people who haven't had much of a background in gaming. I don't know anything about Sandy outside of what I've seen in videos and such (which means I know exactly nothing about Sandy), but just because she doesn't play games all the time doesn't mean she isn't qualified for her position. For someone like her who isn't on the forums talking to people on a daily basis, knowing groups of people is more important than knowing games specifically.

To clarify, obviously I don't mean that knowing games isn't useful, it's just not necessarily a deal breaker.
 
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I've known some fantastic VG marketing/community people who haven't had much of a background in gaming. I don't know anything about Sandy outside of what I've seen in videos and such (which means I know exactly nothing about Sandy), but just because she doesn't play games all the time doesn't mean she isn't qualified for her position. For someone like her who isn't on the forums talking to people on a daily basis, knowing groups of people is more important than knowing games specifically.

To clarify, obviously I don't mean that knowing games isn't useful, it's just not necessarily a deal breaker.
Building on this, I knew several people, staff and professors when I went to university that ended up in radically different jobs from their initial degrees and did a great job. Formal training, no matter what it is(and yes playing games is training of a kind), doesn't tell us how people will ultimately end up or what they are capable of.
 
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Building on this, I knew several people, staff and professors when I went to university that ended up in radically different jobs from their initial degrees and did a great job. Formal training, no matter what it is(and yes playing games is training of a kind), doesn't tell us how people will ultimately end up or what they are capable of.
Yeah, hell I went to school for Theatre and was working at a production company doing lighting/sound for concerts before I moved to the gaming industry and started doing community management.
 

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I've known some fantastic VG marketing/community people who haven't had much of a background in gaming. I don't know anything about Sandy outside of what I've seen in videos and such (which means I know exactly nothing about Sandy), but just because she doesn't play games all the time doesn't mean she isn't qualified for her position. For someone like her who isn't on the forums talking to people on a daily basis, knowing groups of people is more important than knowing games specifically.

To clarify, obviously I don't mean that knowing games isn't useful, it's just not necessarily a deal breaker.
She is clearly doing something right.
SC is a success.
 
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She is clearly doing something right.
SC is a success.
I think most people focus on CR and the devs not her. They are the ones that sell the game. The choices she has made that we know of have brought heavy criticisms (selling idris again, selling the glaive and how to acquire one, for example). If she wasnt there I think SC would be just as successful.
 

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Yeah, Sandi does a good job. She and Chris have worked together for years, so while she may have had a slight nepotism in getting the job, she has done a good job at helping to manage the unruly tides of SC backers.

Something I do not envy her for.
 
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They are the ones that sell the game
She's still the VP of marketing, I can't imagine she has had no influence...

As for people criticizing her choices, people are critical of everything (mouse-commander, missile balance, the FPS delay, everything in the leak having been kept secret...) so I wouldn't say that makes her bad at her job.
 

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It's games yo. There is a crazy amount of turnover. Sometimes its justified with logic, sometimes not. I have worked in games for 6 years now, I have seen a lot of good friends come and go. I myself have lost a fair number of jobs to questionable reasons. It really doesn't mean anything. I work at 343 Industries right now. We are making Halo 5, we have all the funding in the world, and we still cut people when we have to. Sometimes its a team environment thing, sometimes it is because they have a different vision. There are 1,001 reasons why people leave companies. Don't read too much into it, because in games it doesn't really amount to shit.
Wait, so your confirming Halo 5 right ? XD
 
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Look - if it was not for Sandi - then BEN would be the FACE of Star Citizen. 'Cause surely Chris Roberts is not the face of it, he was in the beginning, and is surely the brains behind it - just not the face.

No offence to Ben, but if it was just BEN's face... if he didn't have Sandi beside him all the time, this game would not be as popular - it would possibly become UNPOPULAR because of the bad stigma surrounding Ben, the kind of judgement done at first site thing. I think Sandi does an admirably good job, the fashion industry is extremely cut throat competitive, being in a videogame industry now, she has an edge/advantage and is lending that credit and experience to SC for sure. The way we have this hype and daily/weekly news updates and such is probably her doing, I'm relatively sure of it, because it almost seems like a fashion show, the way it draws our interest in, to new and upcoming fashions/ships/content etc..
 

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Can we just not bump this thread anymore? (yeah I know I AM BUMPING IT NOW)
Just let it go. "He" (who shall not be named) was NOT right. End of story.-
 

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3-4 people getting fired in a company of that size is nothing. Also if CIG needs more money, they can just do a ship sale and they fill their reserves. Derek Smart is a piece of shit, lie spreading, troll that must not be taken seriously under any circumstances.
to continue with Krystal's thought, I work in a 300 person office, in a 1000+ person company. We lose... I'll say 1 person a week? These are from firings and from people quitting, but turnover happens and focusing on it is not productive. Instead of focusing on the actual loss of a person or people, you *should* be looking at is what percentage of the office's total staff is being cut. 3-4 people in a company the size of CIG is only around 1%, which is insignificant.

*EDIT* I didn't see you saying not to bump the thread. Forgive me krystal, for I have sinned.
 

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Wait, we're supposed to not bump this? I can still post, right? I mean, as long as we don't bump this thread, the table won't fall over and send beer flying... Right?
 
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