Coronavirus COVID-19 Thread

[NaffNaffBobFace]

COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today, Sunday 14th of March:

- World: 119,755,449 confirmed cases and 2,651,442 confirmed deaths.

- US: Dr Fauci has stated he hopes that Former President Trump will encourage his supporters to accept vaccination as other previous presidents prepare to issue PSAs.

- UK: Police in London draw criticism as they cite COVID rules to forcefully break up a park vidual for a murdered woman who's main suspect in the case, is an officer from that police force.

- Republic Of Ireland: Becomes latest country to suspend Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine over blood clot concerns.

- Northern Ireland: To continue to use Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

- Italy: Northern region of Piedmont suspends Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine after death of a teacher who had been injected yesterday.

- Vaccines/EU: AstraZeneca advises EU that it will again not be able to meet previously agreed quotas. EU official says: “The good news is that even though there are delays with AstraZeneca we won’t be late with our vaccination programme in the first quarter,” [...] “Pfizer is producing more, much more than planned and is going to deliver more to us,”

- France: Paris area plans to relocate 100 COVID patents to other areas under less strain to free up capacity.

- Netherlands: Police break up COVID protest at the Hague with water canon and mounted units.

- Isle Of Man: Active cases passes 800.

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today, Monday 15th of March:

- World: 120,019,617 confirmed cases, 2,656,023 confirmed deaths.

- World: Passes 120 million cases, we passed 119 million on Saturday meaning another million in the last 2/3 days.

- US: Some 25% of politicians in The House found to be avoiding taking a vaccine, effecting the countries ability to reform sittings.

- US: Report suggests 50% of prison staff refuse vaccine.

- US: Video of world-famous cellist Yo-Yo Ma playing in a vaccine center in Massachusetts goes viral after they took up their bow while waiting after their vaccination.

- US: Miami, and police arrest 100 during Spring Break gatherings which broke COVID rules.

- France, Italy, Germany: And other countries also pause the use of Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine amid clot concerns.

- Thailand: To resume use of Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine following suspending as a precaution.

- Papua New Guinea: Sees new wave of infections.

- Germany: Doctors call for immediate lockdown to avoid a third wave.

- China: Economy bounces back as year-on-year data shows 35.1% spike on Jan-Feb 2020/2021 figures.

- Isle Of Man: Active COVID cases now at 847.

 

[Jolly_Green_Giant]

Just got back from the VA after receiving my first dose of the covid shot. About 3 hours later and i feel (under the weather) tired. Talking to the nurse, people who come in for their second dose reported that after their first one, the biggest thing was just the absolute exhaustion some people feel for up to 72 hours afterwards, but she said its usually just a day or two for most people. No soreness at the injection site, no chills or anything, I think I'm gonna live.


Ill add the pamphlet I was given for the curious. I wont include the front of the CDC card they give you as your official vaccination record because it includes my name and last 4 of my social. Its like a flash card, but has the vaccine info for each date you receive a dose. Mine says: Pfizer EN6208 , todays date, vaccination site (VA).

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

Just got back from the VA after receiving my first dose of the covid shot. About 3 hours later and i feel (under the weather) tired. Talking to the nurse, people who come in for their second dose reported that after their first one, the biggest thing was just the absolute exhaustion some people feel for up to 72 hours afterwards, but she said its usually just a day or two for most people. No soreness at the injection site, no chills or anything, I think I'm gonna live.


Ill add the pamphlet I was given for the curious. I wont include the front of the CDC card they give you as your official vaccination record because it includes my name and last 4 of my social. Its like a flash card, but has the vaccine info for each date you receive a dose. Mine says: Pfizer EN6208 , todays date, vaccination site (VA).


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Great news, please keep us informed as to how you get on :-)

 

[Vavrik]

- France, Italy, Germany: And other countries also pause the use of Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine amid clot concerns.

I hope the media is not spinning this wrong. This is a normal precaution after any cluster of adverse events.

Also, @Jolly_Green_Giant, thanks for that update. My wife and I are scheduled for the first dose next week.

 

[Jolly_Green_Giant]

I just wanted to add that I really dropped all suspicion of the vaccine after I realized the military gives you Anthrax and smallpox vaccines. If you've had them you know what I'm talking about. Anthrax is Anthrax, that's all you need to know. As for the Small pox one, it leaves a decent sized scar on your arm where the tissue around the injection site is just obliterated. I have had neither fortunately, but everyone I know that did get it is still alive and well for the most part. We get a different flu vaccine every year that I don't question. I was vaccinated several times in grade school then college. Once before EMT training, another before Paramedic training, then another set of vaccine cocktails while working in the ER, then another couple in the Military. I have no Idea what most of them were, but they weren't your average set of shots you get as a kid. If I were to say I do have one thing I'm worried about it would be the chance of blood clots. But hey, what can ya do.

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

I hope the media is not spinning this wrong. This is a normal precaution after any cluster of adverse events.

So far the reports seem to have been fairly even-handed, most seem to make sure to stress that government officials have stated the pause is only a pause and that they quote words such as "Precaution" and "Abundance of caution". I think it's only really massively notable that the EU threw its toys out the pram with this vaccine manufacturer and this is the one which gets itself a series of notable adverse events. Conspiracy fuel and tin-hats ahoy.

 

[Vavrik]

Conspiracy fuel and tin-hats ahoy.

I still have to remember not to drink stuff when I am reading TEST forums. Too much risk that I'll start laughing.

 

[Radegast74]

I just wanted to add that I really dropped all suspicion of the vaccine after I realized the military gives you Anthrax and smallpox vaccines. If you've had them you know what I'm talking about. Anthrax is Anthrax, that's all you need to know. As for the Small pox one, it leaves a decent sized scar on your arm where the tissue around the injection site is just obliterated. I have had neither fortunately, but everyone I know that did get it is still alive and well for the most part. We get a different flu vaccine every year that I don't question. I was vaccinated several times in grade school then college. Once before EMT training, another before Paramedic training, then another set of vaccine cocktails while working in the ER, then another couple in the Military. I have no Idea what most of them were, but they weren't your average set of shots you get as a kid. If I were to say I do have one thing I'm worried about it would be the chance of blood clots. But hey, what can ya do.

lol, with vaccines, when I was in the military, it basically "line up against the wall" and then wham bam you had your shot.

When I got out and went to a regular provider, first time I got the flu shot, I get like 5 pages of forms for "I consent..." and "PRECAUTIONS -- Do not get a flu shot if you have any of these allergies..." and I was there like, WTF? nobody ever told us about this in the military, LUL

My Moderna shot: First one, felt like just a sore arm for about 2 days, not right away, but starting a couple hours after.
My Moderna second shot ... my reaction may have been compounded by my sinus problems, but I was really, really tired and felt like crap for about 36 -48 hours...spent most of the weekend in bed (fortunately, my workplace gave me the shot Friday afternoon, so I didn't have to miss any work /s).

 

[Vavrik]

lol, with vaccines, when I was in the military, it basically "line up against the wall" and then wham bam you had your shot.

When I got out and went to a regular provider, first time I got the flu shot, I get like 5 pages of forms for "I consent..." and "PRECAUTIONS -- Do not get a flu shot if you have any of these allergies..." and I was there like, WTF? nobody ever told us about this in the military, LUL

My Moderna shot: First one, felt like just a sore arm for about 2 days, not right away, but starting a couple hours after.
My Moderna second shot ... my reaction may have been compounded by my sinus problems, but I was really, really tired and felt like crap for about 36 -48 hours...spent most of the weekend in bed (fortunately, my workplace gave me the shot Friday afternoon, so I didn't have to miss any work /s).

I saw the list of vaccines for recruits, and also for various assignments for both Canadian and US troops recently. If you're in either military, and you catch so much as a flu, they aren't going to take any blame for it.

 

[Michael]

i remember from the german military that any vaccination is mandatory and part of the contract you sign.
(There is also a judgement from the court that any soldier needs to get the covid shot)

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today, Tuesday 16th of March:

- World: 120,453,308 confirmed cases and 2,664,973 confirmed deaths.

- US: Texas, and a woman is arrested and taken into custody for not wearing a mask in a bank. The Mask mandate has been lifted in Texas, however that does specifically exclude banks.

- France: Marks first anniversary of the start of the countries first national lockdown.

- France: Prime Minister announces the country has entered its third wave.

- Europe: Number of confirmed deaths in the area passes 900,000.

- Turkey: Sees highest new daily cases of 2021 for the country, at 16,749.

- UK: Government continues to defend itself in the 1% NHS pay rise discussion, with a minister saying: "Inflation is below 1% and therefore a proposed 1% pay rise is indeed a pay rise and that's simply a matter of fact."

- UK: Deaths of care home residents found to be below average for the last 3 weeks "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said there were 2,531 deaths of care home residents registered in the week ending 5 March 2021, 15.7% fewer deaths than the 3,005 deaths registered on average for this week between 2015 and 2019." suggesting the vaccination strategy of attending to the most vulnerable first may had a positive impact, but deaths overall were still 3% above the 5 year average in early March.

- UK: Discovers two more cases of Brazilian variant, both linked to travel to Brazil.

- UK: More cases of South African variant located in West Midlands near Birmingham prompting surge testing in the area.

- UK: Two cases of new Philippines variant discovered in UK, shares some of the mutations of the Brazilian variant.

- Brazil: Appoints its 4th health minister since the beginning of the pandemic.

- Sweden: Pauses use of Oxford/AstraZeneca Vaccine.

- Latvia: Pauses use of Oxford/AstraZeneca Vaccine.

- Lithuania: Pauses use of Oxford/AstraZeneca Vaccine.

- Germany/Italy: Reports emerging of confusion caused by pause of Oxford/AstraZeneca Vaccine with some vaccination centers closing their doors and appointments being cancelled at short notice.

- EU: Regulator indicates no connection between Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots. "The number of thromboembolic events overall in vaccinated people seems not to be higher than that seen in the general population." Investigations continue.

- Russia: Countries COVID vaccine candidates found to be effective against new variants scientist advises on state TV.

- Iran: Launches human trial of third locally produced vaccine candidate.

 

[PeppaPigKilla]

- UK: Government continues to defend itself in the 1% NHS pay rise discussion, with a minister saying: "Inflation is below 1% and therefore a proposed 1% pay rise is indeed a pay rise and that's simply a matter of fact."

but these motherfuckers wanted theirs

The independent body had recommended keeping the existing method for calculating MPs' pay, which links it to public sector earnings, and could have seen MPs receive an inflation-busting £3,360 pay increase next April.

MPs are currently paid £81,932 per year and have enjoyed a pay rise in each of the last six years.

I should add its been proposed they dont get a payrise this year

COVID-19: MPs to no longer receive pay rise of more than £3,000 after IPSA U-turns due to pandemic impact

The independent parliamentary body says MPs will now have their salaries frozen due to the "unprecedented impact" of coronavirus.

news.sky.com

 

[PeppaPigKilla]

- EU: Regulator indicates no connection between Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots. "The number of thromboembolic events overall in vaccinated people seems not to be higher than that seen in the general population." Investigations continue.

This confuses me, if there is no link why are more countries pausing this vaccine?

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

This confuses me, if there is no link why are more countries pausing this vaccine?

From the reports I've seen that weren't tilting at windmills, it appears that some of the concerns were certain batches may have been contaminated causing illness, and some other reports quote that the pauses in some places were due to "Extremely unusual symptoms of the rare adverse affects" which occurred after injection but with not much further info other than one which said someone had hemorrhaged pretty much everywhere in their body at once.

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today, Wednesday 17th of March:

- World: 120,917,739 total confirmed cases and 2,674,151 total confirmed deaths.

- World: 13 countries have now suspended use of Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

- US: As hoped for, former President Donald Trump has urged supporters to take vaccination saying it was safe and "something that works". He received his in January.

- US: Concerns raised over private companies involvement in Vaccine rollout as relationship between Google and One Medical fails.

- US: President Biden warns nation that the 4th July Independence from COVID target will not succeed if people do not continue to follow restrictions and public health measures for the time being.

- EU: Commission President indicates they are prepared to invoke article 122 of the EU Treaty, which would allow the EU to block all vaccine exports, lift intellectual property rights and patents on vaccines and even seize production facilities: "We have observed that in the last six weeks, 10 million doses have been exported to the UK, the UK is producing AstraZeneca. In our contract with AstraZeneca there are two sites in the UK that are put in the contract for potential deliveries to the EU. [...] I want to be clear on reciprocity. If the situation does not change, we will have to reflect on how to make exports to vaccine-producing countries dependent on their level of openness. We are exporting a lot to countries that are themselves producing vaccines and we think this is an invitation to be open, so we also see exports from them coming back to the European Union. The second point that is of importance for us, we will reflect on whether exports to countries who have higher vaccination rates than us are still proportionate. This about making sure Europe gets its fair share. [...] [The UK] is country number one where exports from the European Union is concerned and indeed, the United Kingdom is producing AstraZeneca. We are still waiting for doses to come from the UK, so this is an invitation to show us that there are also doses from the UK coming to the European Union."

- UK: Foreign Secretary quoted as saying “Frankly, I’m surprised we’re having this conversation, It is normally what the UK and EU team up with to reject when other countries with less democratic regimes than our own engage in that kind of brinkmanship.”

- UK: reaches 25 million people having had at least one dose of vaccine 100 days after first vaccine administered.

- UK: Vaccination opened up to people 50 years old and above, Prime Minister indicates he is to insist on having the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine later in the week.

- UK: NHS letter indicates from March 29th, vaccine supplies for first doses will be severely curtailed meaning focus of existing supply will have to be on second injections. “We have today opened up national booking to everyone aged 50 and over, so over this next period it is vital we focus on vaccinating those in cohorts 1 –9, who are most vulnerable to Covid-19, as well as delivering to the agreed schedule significantly increased numbers of second doses, which double from the beginning of April,” - although 25 million people have had their first dose, only 1.7 million have had their second so far.

- Wales: Announces £500 bonus for Medical and Social Care staff.

- Poland: To go back in to lockdown.

- Brazil: Health Institution Fiocruz warns: "The analysis by our researchers suggests it's the biggest collapse of the hospital and health service in Brazil's history."

- Australia: To send 8,000 Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines to Papa New Guinea.

- Iceland: Reopens boarders.

- Ireland: 16 people arrested at lockdown protests for breaching public health guidelines.

- India: Report indicates 6.5% of vaccine doses going to waste.

- Thialand: Sniffer dogs trained to detect COVID-19 in sweat found to have a 95% accuracy rate.

 

[Vavrik]

EU: Commission President indicates they are prepared to invoke article 122 of the EU Treaty, which would allow the EU to block all vaccine exports, lift intellectual property rights and patents on vaccines and even seize production facilities: "We have observed that in the last six weeks, 10 million doses have been exported to the UK, the UK is producing AstraZeneca. In our contract with AstraZeneca there are two sites in the UK that are put in the contract for potential deliveries to the EU. [...] I want to be clear on reciprocity. If the situation does not change, we will have to reflect on how to make exports to vaccine-producing countries dependent on their level of openness. We are exporting a lot to countries that are themselves producing vaccines and we think this is an invitation to be open, so we also see exports from them coming back to the European Union. The second point that is of importance for us, we will reflect on whether exports to countries who have higher vaccination rates than us are still proportionate. This about making sure Europe gets its fair share. [...] [The UK] is country number one where exports from the European Union is concerned and indeed, the United Kingdom is producing AstraZeneca. We are still waiting for doses to come from the UK, so this is an invitation to show us that there are also doses from the UK coming to the European Union."

- UK: Foreign Secretary quoted as saying “Frankly, I’m surprised we’re having this conversation, It is normally what the UK and EU team up with to reject when other countries with less democratic regimes than our own engage in that kind of brinkmanship.”

Interesting timing EU, signed CANZUK.

Maybe I should explain that a bit. So far, vaccine manufacturers and not government has been setting vaccine delivery schedules. It was also on a first come (with a check) first serves basis. The US also had this problem with Pfizer at first ... but got their act together. It's just odd for the EU to add fuel to the creation of another - and it would be competing - trade alliance.

 

[Montoya]

Our close friends in Brazil just had family member come out of ICU, and another one still in ICU, its really bad down there.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1372305355460517891

View: https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1372305355460517891

 

[NaffNaffBobFace]

Our close friends in Brazil just had family member come out of ICU, and another one still in ICU, its really bad down there.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1372305355460517891

View: https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1372305355460517891

I suppose with an ever evolving problem as a virus, a muddle through take it on the chin attitude carried a high risk of the situation escalating as it has there...

I saw a report with a quote from a Brazilian doctor a few days ago saying they thought the situation in Brazil was not just a Brazilian problem now - they thought it was now a global health risk.

 

[Radegast74]

i remember from the german military that any vaccination is mandatory and part of the contract you sign.
(There is also a judgement from the court that any soldier needs to get the covid shot)

I read in an article that currently, our military cannot require the COVID Vaccine because it hasn't actually be approved by our FDA. It is currently being used under an "Emergency Use Authorization". However, when it is approved, they can require it.