Coronavirus COVID-19 Thread
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So if you think "God"/"Jehovah" is a misunderstanding, then that gives you the right to tell people their belief is not scientific and therefore it is wrong and should be marginalized. See where this leads --> nowhere good.
SoloFlyer
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I don't see how that enters into it, I didn't say to marginalize people but opinions that are based around a lack of knowlede. In any event, faith itself isn't based on a lack of knowledge or misunderstanding of knowledge. Faith is defined by webster's as "a strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof". Marginalizing someone for their faith is definitely wrong, no question. But some of the opinions that might possibly arise due to that faith should be marginalized, like racism, gender bias, homophobia, etc.
But we're talking about medical professionals that are espousing practices that are contrary to what the numbers and experts in the field are telling us. They are giving opinions that are based around a relatively small sample size and anecdotal evidence.
So how do you quantify faith? I have faith in my constitution. Is that quantifiable... the Bible is a belief system, like the Constitutions, Global Warming, One World Government.
Please don't say x=x but the exception of y. No x=y is wrong unless y is the same variable as x.
I shared the video with my partner and she thinks Youtube is right to remove that video. These guys are essentially GPs working in private clinics that they own. GPs are different to virologists or even hospital doctors who are dealing with Covid19 on a day to day basis. She said that GPs are seen as the 'Gym teachers' of their profession. Anyway, I'm skeptical about their motivations to release a video that is contrary to the views of the general profession. I'm also not convinced by their arguments as their claims are contrary to the larger medical body and their sample size of 5000 is far too small. I wouldn't be surprised that a national body of doctors was the group that pressured Youtube to take the video down. Medical doctors are in a highly regulated profession. You actually CAN'T put out videos promoting quackery and pseudoscience without your profession's governing body cracking down on you. That's a quick route to losing your license.
Plus where is your link to the 8% death rate? I'm still waiting here, don't leave me hangin'
How conservatives see liberals
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6XBB-umc0
How liberals see conservatives
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGrVYcZPyw
How US sees Canada
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXgDQz6bmiI
How Canada sees the US
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6_yBkuve8
Point is perspective, so please stop putting the world in one bucket. We're all different.
How liberals see conservatives
How US sees Canada
How Canada sees the US
Point is perspective, so please stop putting the world in one bucket. We're all different.
Radegast74
Space Marshal
Thank you for the link
Why are you looking to data on non-communicable diseases (NCDs) which are not contagious (think heart disease, strokes, diabetes etc) when we are talking about a pandemic which is based on a contagious pathogen and its associated death rate?
Your source has nothing of any relevance.
Here is a communicable disease for you to review.
www.who.int
Sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
WHO fact sheet on sexually transmitted diseases (STIs), providing key facts, as a public health issue, infections and transmissions, STIs and women's health, adverse outcomes of pregnancy, HIV, STI syndromes, prevention, vaccination, mother-to-child transmission, WHO response.
If I may inteject a question about this COVID thing we were originally all hyped up about:
If someone had the virus, is it still detectable in their blood sample (or otherwise) if they had only mild symptoms, and were suffering from these symptoms roughly 4-5-6 Months ago?
I had friends who were in Wuhan and traveling in the region right around the questionable point in time when this might have actually started, which we now know was at least a couple of weeks* before anything was reported on it. One was on an inspection trip going to pharmaceutical facilities, the other was on a long vacation, passing through the region. They both were ill for 1-2 weeks after getting home. It might be totally unrelated, just asking out of curiosity.
*(even without the Chinese govt. holding back info, with only having a few serious cases early on that obvisouly didn't trigger any warnings and the 2 week gestation period it can easily be well over a month+ before any reports, and it could have been spreading already by asymptomatic carriers, so in theory they could have gotten it, maybe)
If someone had the virus, is it still detectable in their blood sample (or otherwise) if they had only mild symptoms, and were suffering from these symptoms roughly 4-5-6 Months ago?
I had friends who were in Wuhan and traveling in the region right around the questionable point in time when this might have actually started, which we now know was at least a couple of weeks* before anything was reported on it. One was on an inspection trip going to pharmaceutical facilities, the other was on a long vacation, passing through the region. They both were ill for 1-2 weeks after getting home. It might be totally unrelated, just asking out of curiosity.
*(even without the Chinese govt. holding back info, with only having a few serious cases early on that obvisouly didn't trigger any warnings and the 2 week gestation period it can easily be well over a month+ before any reports, and it could have been spreading already by asymptomatic carriers, so in theory they could have gotten it, maybe)
Here is a communicable disease for you to review.
Sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
WHO fact sheet on sexually transmitted diseases (STIs), providing key facts, as a public health issue, infections and transmissions, STIs and women's health, adverse outcomes of pregnancy, HIV, STI syndromes, prevention, vaccination, mother-to-child transmission, WHO response.
Redeem yourself. It doesn't matter if you were taken in by an incorrect article for an 8% death rate or were just confused or mistook what it said - cite your source or I will be forced to take this as admission by omission.
Laugh then. It's good for the soul.
There is actually a relevant source for an "8%" related to COVID-19. The report itself was not published by the WHO it was written and published by researchers in China, and published in English by several US universities - including the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy. The reference to 8% is not what you think it is however, it is the percent of the study subjects between 20-29 years old. The report claims a total 2.3% death rate among all of the subjects.
Here. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/study-72000-covid-19-patients-finds-23-death-rate
@Lorddarthvik I know there was a bout of influenza (not covid-19) that hit the US during that time. I got it, and it was bad. Get an antibody test... that's what I would do.