Flying the Corsair in a spreadsheet

FZD

Space Marshal

Nov 22, 2022

#1

Okey, so just for shiggles, I made this spreadsheet about
A) The maximum distances various ships should stay away from Corsair under combat speed in order to remain in its blind spot.
B) Whether, considering the sizes of the ships, that's even possible
C) How long would a Corsair with fixed guns, the maximum firepower out there, take to demolish each ship out there
D) How long would a Corsair with gimballed guns take to demolish each ship out there

This gives some indication on which ships would, assuming both pilots are absolute aces who make no mistakes of any kind, win and lose against Corsair. Theoretically anyhow. Or at the very least keep a stalemate going, staying outside of the corsairs forward facing firepower using the ships own main engine (which then also stops them from using their forward facing firepower).

Aaand there might be some errors. I wasn't paying that much attention. If you see a mistake, let me know.
(Oh this message is gonna be too long. Well... here's first half.)

TTTK = Theoretical time to kill

Name	Max Blindstay Distance	Blind spot possible	Faster than Corsair	TTTK	TTTK (Gimb)
100i	219.58	Yes	yes	0.55	1.01
125a	240.49	Yes	yes	0.55	1.01
135c	198.67	Yes	yes	0.55	1.01
300i	213.31	Yes	yes	1.17	2.15
315p	219.58	Yes	yes	1.17	2.15
325a	235.26	Yes	yes	1.17	2.15
350r	269.77	Yes	yes	0.58	1.07
400i	193.44	Yes	yes	9.78	17.92
600i	113.97	Yes	yes	7.74	14.19
600i Executive Edition	113.97	Yes	yes	7.74	14.19
600i Touring	113.97	Yes	yes	7.74	14.19
85X Limited	198.67	Yes	yes	0.41	0.74
890 Jump	83.65	No	no	34.69	63.58
A2 Hercules Starlifter	141.16	Yes	yes	12.5	22.92
Ares Star Fighter Inferno	177.75	Yes	yes	3.62	6.64
Ares Star Fighter Ion	177.75	Yes	yes	3.62	6.64
Arrow	209.12	Yes	yes	0.99	1.81
Aurora CL	144.29	Yes	yes	0.87	1.6
Aurora ES	149.52	Yes	yes	0.87	1.6
Aurora LN	144.29	Yes	yes	0.87	1.6
Aurora LX	149.52	Yes	yes	0.87	1.6
Aurora MR	153.71	Yes	yes	0.87	1.6
Avenger Stalker	192.39	Yes	yes	1.37	2.52
Avenger Titan	197.62	Yes	yes	1.37	2.52
Avenger Titan Renegade	197.62	Yes	yes	1.37	2.52
Avenger Warlock	189.26	Yes	yes	1.37	2.52
Blade	223.76	Yes	yes	0.96	1.76
Buccaneer	219.58	Yes	yes	1.62	2.97
C2 Hercules Starlifter	141.16	Yes	yes	12.5	22.92
C8 Pisces	148.48	Yes	yes	0.45	0.82
C8R Pisces Rescue	171.48	Yes	yes	0.45	0.82
C8X Pisces Expedition	148.48	Yes	yes	0.45	0.82
Carrack	217.49	Yes	yes	13.47	24.69
Carrack Expedition	217.49	Yes	yes	13.47	24.69
Caterpillar	103.52	Yes	no	9.25	16.95
Caterpillar Pirate	103.52	Yes	no	9.25	16.95
Constellation Andromeda	150.57	Yes	no	18.81	34.47
Constellation Aquila	152.66	Yes	yes	18.81	34.47
Constellation Phoenix	150.57	Yes	no	17.06	31.27
Constellation Phoenix Emerald	150.57	Yes	no	17.06	31.27
Constellation Taurus	150.57	Yes	no	14.69	26.92
Corsair	156.84	Yes	no	10.45	19.16
Cutlass Black	172.53	Yes	yes	3.34	6.12
Cutlass Blue	207.03	Yes	yes	3.43	6.29
Cutlass Red	191.35	Yes	yes	3.23	5.92
Cutlass Steel	156.84	Yes	no	3.34	6.12
Cutter	167.3	Yes	yes	1.82	3.33
Defender	212.26	Yes	yes	1.73	3.16
Dragonfly	88.88	Yes	no	0.34	0.63
Dragonfly Star Kitten	88.88	Yes	no	0.34	0.63
Dragonfly Yellowjacket	88.88	Yes	no	0.34	0.63
Eclipse	152.66	Yes	yes	1.43	2.63
F7A Hornet	219.58	Yes	yes	2.81	5.14
F7C Hornet	200.76	Yes	yes	2.31	4.24
F7C Hornet Wildfire	200.76	Yes	yes	2.31	4.24
F7C-M Hornet Heartseeker	200.76	Yes	yes	2.32	4.25
F7C-M Super Hornet	200.76	Yes	yes	2.32	4.25
F7C-R Hornet Tracker	200.76	Yes	yes	2.31	4.24

Last edited: Nov 22, 2022

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FZD

Space Marshal

Nov 22, 2022

#2

F7C-S Hornet Ghost	200.76	Yes	yes	2.31	4.24
F8 Lightning	221.67	Yes	yes	4.27	7.83
Freelancer	161.02	Yes	yes	3.63	6.66
Freelancer DUR	161.02	Yes	yes	2.75	5.05
Freelancer MAX	161.02	Yes	yes	2.65	4.85
Freelancer MIS	161.02	Yes	yes	2.65	4.85
Gladiator	157.89	Yes	yes	3.42	6.27
Gladius	217.49	Yes	yes	1.2	2.2
Gladius Pirate	217.49	Yes	yes	1.2	2.2
Gladius Valiant	217.49	Yes	yes	1.2	2.2
Glaive	189.26	Yes	yes	1.86	3.4
Hammerhead	109.79	Yes	yes	31.61	57.93
Hawk	235.26	Yes	yes	1.4	2.57
Herald	181.94	Yes	yes	0.89	1.63
Hull A	112.93	Yes	yes	10.17	18.65
Hurricane	207.03	Yes	yes	2.13	3.9
Khartu-al	234.22	Yes	yes	1.62	2.97
M2 Hercules Starlifter	141.16	Yes	yes	12.5	22.92
M50 Interceptor	257.22	Yes	yes	0.78	1.42
Mantis	175.66	Yes	yes	1.33	2.44
Mercury Star Runner	224.81	Yes	yes	4.28	7.84
MOLE	133.84	Yes	yes	3.15	5.77
MOLE Carbon	133.84	Yes	yes	3.15	5.77
MOLE Talus	133.84	Yes	yes	3.15	5.77
MPUV Cargo	117.11	Yes	no	0.76	1.4
MPUV Personnel	120.25	Yes	no	0.76	1.4
Mustang Alpha	199.71	Yes	yes	1.06	1.95
Mustang Beta	196.58	Yes	yes	1.06	1.95
Mustang Delta	192.39	Yes	yes	1.06	1.95
Mustang Gamma	251.99	Yes	yes	1.06	1.95
Mustang Omega	251.99	Yes	yes	1.06	1.95
Nomad	188.21	Yes	yes	1.34	2.46
Nox	83.65	Yes	no	0.32	0.58
Nox Kue	83.65	Yes	no	0.32	0.58
P-52 Merlin	211.21	Yes	yes	0.6	1.1
P-72 Archimedes	259.31	Yes	yes	0.6	1.1
P-72 Archimedes Emerald	259.31	Yes	yes	0.6	1.1
Prospector	156.84	Yes	yes	1.83	3.36
Prowler	186.12	Yes	yes	2.89	5.3
RAFT	141.16	Yes	no	4.67	8.55
Razor	263.49	Yes	yes	1	1.83
Razor EX	263.49	Yes	yes	1	1.83
Razor LX	287.54	Yes	yes	0.41	0.76
Reclaimer	79.47	No	no	15.69	28.75
Redeemer	146.39	Yes	yes	14.3	26.22
Reliant Kore	173.57	Yes	yes	1.67	3.07
Reliant Mako	173.57	Yes	yes	1.67	3.07
Reliant Sen	173.57	Yes	yes	1.67	3.07
Reliant Tana	173.57	Yes	yes	1.67	3.07
Retaliator	144.29	Yes	no	33.53	61.45
Sabre	215.4	Yes	yes	1.43	2.62
Sabre Comet	215.4	Yes	yes	1.43	2.62
Sabre Raven	214.35	Yes	yes	1.49	2.73
Scorpius	227.94	Yes	yes	4.33	7.93
Scythe	203.89	Yes	yes	1.4	2.57
Starfarer	88.88	Yes	no	7.85	14.38
Starfarer Gemini	92.01	Yes	no	7.85	14.38
Talon	217.49	Yes	yes	1.99	3.64
Talon Shrike	217.49	Yes	yes	1.99	3.64
Terrapin	164.16	Yes	yes	11.09	20.33
Valkyrie	172.53	Yes	yes	4.87	8.93
Vanguard Harbinger	178.8	Yes	yes	4.77	8.74
Vanguard Hoplite	178.8	Yes	yes	4.72	8.66
Vanguard Sentinel	178.8	Yes	yes	4.72	8.66
Vanguard Warden	176.71	Yes	yes	4.72	8.66
Vulture	172.53	Yes	yes	0.68	1.26

Last edited: Nov 22, 2022

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FZD

Space Marshal

Nov 22, 2022

#3

So, there were some surprises there.
And the blindstay distance is surprisingly short for most. Actually, I'm now wondering if I mixed up perimeter length and radius in the formula

EDIT: Yeaah, I had messed up the formula. Now it looks more sane.
So basically, most ships could theoretically outmanoeuvre Corsair, since corsair has an extremely slow turn rate.
There's few caveats: I've not taken into account the other ships turn rate. Only the distance it can circle corsair using the ships main engine. I'd really wanna do the table using the x/y/z axis acceleration data, but I couldn't find a handy table for that. And I don't want to click through 127 ships to get that info :wut:

The "Blind spot possible" column might be a bit misleading. It's basically just whether or not there's at least the max blindstay distance between the cores of the two ships. So 890j for example is too large to stay 83 meters away.

Last edited: Nov 22, 2022

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal

Donor

Nov 22, 2022

#4

Nice to see the 350r being top of the class at something again :)

EDIT - Oops no the Razor LX takes that crown. Still... fastest ship with a toilet which has a door you'll ever call your own, eh?

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