Future Warrior

Richard Bong

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I originally thought exactly what you are saying, but the guard actually makes a guess—bad one, granted—but he guesses at a rate of fire he thinks is high. He guesses 300 rpm. That’s why I noted assault rifles fire about 750 and SMGs about 1200.

I don’t recall how much I explained about this above, so at the risk of repeating myself, the doctrine for personal firepower at the close of the Cold War was that the way to improve hits by average soldiers was for them to fire bursts instead of single shots, and those bursts so quickly that the rifle did not have time to recoil off target. That doctrine is what gave birth to the H&K G11, which fired 3 round bursts at 2,100 rpm from a magazine of 90 rounds. So instead of 30, single shots it delivered 30 bursts of 3. Remember these are all light, “assault weapon” size bullets from The West, so around 50-60 grains. AKs are a very different animal.

I’m bringing it up because the witness brought it up. One supposes whomever that was trained on a weapon that fired about 750 rpm, and judged the Americans shooting much faster. That sounds like burst fire, far above 750. Could be a SMG, but that seems questionable to me. I think this detail is reason to suspect that Delta has access to an unidentified weapon that supports the old Cold War doctrine.
And, as a US Army member at the ends of the cold war, the M-16A1 was changed to the A2 which took away full automatic and replaced it with 3 round burst. 3 Round burst isn't useful for suppressive fire and is a waste of ammo when you are firing at individuals. 3 round burst was pretty useless when clearing rooms in MOUT.

Note the G-11, which is where the 3 round burst at 2200 RPM reference comes from, was a failure and used a lighter (4.7mm) bullet.

Battle rifles are too heavy. If you're going to make me carry that much extra weight, I'd rather have an on an M-203 on an M-16 or M-4.

I still haven’t seen the source Richard found that there were American wounded though, I don’t doubt it. Reports are often inflated and some news media don’t even know what the word “casualties” means.
That is the Pentagon's press release. 7 injured, 2 seriously. You can find it on CNBC and Fox easily enough.

Bullpups are the future. The Army needs to get their shit together.
No, they aren't. Having fired a few, they are overly complicated, making them more difficult to maintain. The trigger is inconsistent and does not have a good tension, and because of design they are both difficult to use and difficult to reload in the prone position. Oh, and they make it difficult to fire left handed. The only advantage they offer is a shorter overall length, which is a questionable advantage.
 
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