ILW 2955 WB CCU Watch

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Translation of the title:
IAE = Intergalactic Aerospace Expo
2955 = 2025
WB = Warbond
CCU = Cross Chassis Upgrade
watch = keep a beady eye on

What are WB CCUs?
They're how CIG does discounts. They require new money (so no store credit) but you can get $5, $10, $15, $20 or more knocked off the price of a regular CCU.

"$5 dollars? Why bother" I hear you ask.
Well the cool thing about these is that you can combine the discounts if you can fit multiple WB CCUs in the same CCU chain. It's basically make your own discount. Now, you have to pay at least $5 for a CCU, so the smallest WB CCU you can buy is a $10 CCU discounted to $5, or a 50% discount. Not too shabby.

The thing to keep in mind here, is to always select the ship closest in value to the WB CCU discount point. So for example, let's say Arrow ($75 melt value normally) has a $5 discount WB CCU on it. You can't pick 325A to Arrow CCU, as that'd be $0 CCU and CIG doesn't do those. For obvious reasons. Instead, you could, and probably should, pick 315p ($65 melt value) for a $5 off, and pay $5 at 50% discount. Of course you could pick 300i ($60 melt), possibly because you own a 300i, and pay $10 at 33% discount. But you really shouldn't. This is for two reasons. Firstly, because WB CCUs are new money, so you'd have to put in $10 new money, when you could've just used $5 store credit for 300i to 315p and then used $5 fresh money for 315p to Arrow. Secondly, and more importantly, the smaller CCUs you use the better chances you have to fit some new future CCUs into the chain. Thirdly, specific to this and some other cases, 315p is permanently available. So even if you don't have store credits right now, you can get that normal 300i to 315p CCU whenever.

"Okey, but it's still just $5 dollars, like what are you going to do, keep doing this for years and, then what, get ships for next to nothing?"
Yes. Absolutely yes. This really is "build your own discount." If you have the patience to do this over several sale events, you can get something like my $155 Banu Merchantman CCU chain. That's quite a steal. Or if you got more money than patience, you can do this over like one event and walk away with perhaps a 30% total discount depending on the target ship and your luck. That's not bad either.

"But isn't the goal to support the development! Why not just pay the full price of ships?"
Well, if you get a ship for 50% off, you still got the option to buy a second ship also for 50% off. You'll still fund with the same amount, only you got twice the amount of ships now. Cool, right?

For historical data, see
ILW 2952 https://testsquadron.com/threads/friendly-reminder-that-warbond-ccus-are-a-thing.19713/
IAE 2952 https://testsquadron.com/threads/iae-2952-wb-ccu-watch.20063/
ILW 2953 https://testsquadron.com/threads/ilw-2953-wb-ccu-watch.20422/
Alien Week 2953 https://testsquadron.com/threads/alienweek-warbond-ccus.20484/
IAE 2953 https://testsquadron.com/threads/iae-2953-wb-ccu-watch.20705/
ILW 2954 https://testsquadron.com/threads/ilw-2954-wb-ccu-watch.21205/
IAE 2954 https://testsquadron.com/threads/iae-2954-wb-ccu-watch.21503/

"Didn't you just copy-paste this info blurt from your previous post?" x2
Shhh! You're not supposed to notice! This is just for new members anyhow, if you've already been around ILW or IAE, why are you here reading 'information for new members' in the first place?

Todays Ship(s)Warbond CCU PriceNormal pricePermanently available starting pointClosest available starting point
Perseus$615$675

Oh, this is an excellent chance to grab a Perseus with Warbond discount before it goes up in price.

DateShipWarbond CCU PriceNormal price
15thVanguard Warden$250$260
16thNautilus$685$725
17thConstellation Taurus$185$200
18thPerseus$615$675

@Brictoria We doing this again? Glorious!
 
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@Brictoria We doing this again?
I think there's a good chance that I'll be doing this again :)

DateShipNormal ship priceCCU ship priceSavingCheapest CCU starting optionMinimum Cost CCUMaximum CCU Discount
15thVanguard Warden$260$250$10$240 (Limited) - F7C-M Super Hornet Mk II, San'tok.yai, Scorpius, Vanguard Hoplite
$240 (Permanent) - Constellation Andromeda
$10 (Limited)
$10 (Permanent)
50% (Limited)
50% (Permanent)
16thNautilus$725$685$40$675 (Concept) - Perseus
$600 (Limited) - Carrack
$315 (Permanent) - Constellation Aquila, MOLE
$10 (Concept)
$85 (Limited)
$370 (Permanent)
80% (Concept)
32% (Limited)
9% (Permanent)
17thConstellation Taurus$200$185$15$180 (Discontinued) - F7C-M Super Hornet Mk I
$175 (Limited) - Cutlass Blue, Fortune, Freelancer MIS, Khartu-Al, Retaliator, Sabre, Zeus Mk II CL, Zeus Mk II ES, F7C Hornet Wildfire Mk I ("Discontinued")
$175 (Permanent) - F7C Hornet Mk II, Vulture
$5 (Discontinued)
$10 (Limited)
$10 (Permanent)
75% (Discontinued)
60% (Limited)
60% (Permanent)
18thPerseus$675$620$55$600 (Limited) - Carrack
$315 (Permanent) - Constellation Aquila, MOLE
$20 (Limited)
$305 (Permanent)
73% (Limited)
15% (Permanent)

Ships in Devlopment

These ships are currently being worked on, and may release at/before IAE. As the ship's price will rise on release, it may be worth considering acquiring CCU's to them using credits. Given that the value of these ships will increase on the ship's release. It would also be risky to use any of these ships as a "starting" ship on a WB CCU, as on release, the price increase would eat into the "savings" on the WB CCU (The exception being "concept" ships, where the final value would also increase, returning the savings to the chain).
ShipPriceCheapest CCU starting optionMinimum costPotential (10%) ship price increaseNotes
Starlancer TAC$330Only available in personal buy-back pool before May 19, then will probably receive a "release to Flyable" WB CCU based on release price.$30-$35Releasing May 19 - Only available through retrieving from buy-backs before that date.
Perseus$675$650 (Concept) - Merchantman, Orion
$600 (Limited) - Carrack
$315 (Permanent) - Constellation Aquila, MOLE
$25 (Concept)
$75 (Limited)
$360 (Permanent)
$65-$70WB Sale on 18th at $620. Probably best (and last) chance to get these extra savings.
Apollo Medivac$275$260 (Limited) - Guardian QI, MSR, Vanguard Warden
$240 (Permanent) - Constellation Andromeda
$15 (Limited)
$35 (Permanent)
$25
Apollo Triage$250$240 (Limited) - F7C-M Super Hornet Mk II, San'Tok.yai, Scorpius, Vanguard Hoplite
$240 (Permanent) - Constellation Andromeda
$10 (Limited)
$10 (Permanent)
$25-$30
 
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Umm, CIG, I think you made a mistake. That's like 3.8% discount. (Well, 50% on the CCU but usually it's closer to 10% of the ship price)
Looked at Cynically, it's likely the saving is so low because this is the closest price they can use in order to make the CCU cost more than $5, as there are ships to start the CCU from at $240, $235, $230, $225, $220. Otherwise they'd have to drop it to $220 in order to avoid the $5 CCU, which would provide more savings towards a chain than they like to provide...
 

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I finally got around to refreshing my chains: I was surprised that I could use 2 of the Vanguard Warden CCU's (one mid-chain, one as an endpoint).

With how many A1-> "concept" San.tok CCU's I have spare, it's tempting to get extras of this one, even though it's only a 50% savings CCU...

If you don't have those old A1->San.tok CCU's, a good (semi regularly appearing in the past) set of CCU's might be the "A1 Spirit"/"Constellation Taurus" -> Cutlass Steel ($10) -> MSR ($5), which reaches the same endpoint (in dollar value) as the Vanguard Warden, but is likely to save more based on the past savings offered on CCU's to the closest starting options for the Vanguard Warden CCU's.
 
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Well, $15 off the price of a Taurus, a $200 ship is pretty good, that's normal. It's usually like a bit under 10% of the price of the ship, rounded down to closest number divisible by 5.
Though it certainly seems like they're deliberately aiming for such gaps that you'll have to spend $10 new money on the CCU.
 
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Oh wow, today is a great chance to grab a Perseus with Warbond discount before the flight ready price bump.
Now the flight ready price bumps can be somewhat unpredictable, but Perseus' big brother, Polaris, went from $750 to $975. I'd imagine Perseus has a more tame flight ready price bump, Polaris is a capital ship after all and Perseus' is already pretty expensive for a large ship. And Perseus is relatively recent, having been announced in 2020. Hm. I'd still give it a $50-$100 as a flight ready price bump.

Man, I've been a bit conflicted about whether or not I should get this ship.
2x S3 shields, that's like 135 000 shield HP (Quadrant, so 33.75k per face, might prio front face when taking down larger ships)
2x 2x S7 (or S8 if the rumors hold true) guns, supposedly bespoke. Could be really good or terrible.
2x 2x S3 remote turrets (they're remote so should be blade-able, this is nice)
No PDC (It's just a large)
20x S5 torps. Eh, might be very useful, might get crippled by replenishing costs.
Only weapon the pilot has are the torps. Those might require a loader too.
Even with blades, requires 3-4 people, and the pilot going at it alone is just pointless.

I mean, I already have the BMM.
2x S8 weapons (probably bespoke) on the pilot. Which I prefer over torps anyhow.
2x S5 turret on top
2x 2x S4 Remote turrets (this is better than on the Perseus)
2x Size 1 (PDC)
Shields same, both are said to be tough and durable, Perseus might be heaps more maneuverable even though BMM is supposedly 'fast' as per the description, though if you're going against other large / sub-capital ships I'm not sure maneuverability matters that much.
BMM doesn't have a ton of torps, but it does have a hangar, so you can bring like an additional fighter or something.
Skeleton crew for BMM is more like 2 (pilot + gunner, remote turrets bladed) though bringing the third would be useful but the pilot going solo will actually not be too bad either with 2 PDC and 2x 2x S4 bladed turrets and the pilot controlling 2x S8 weapons.

So the BMM seems like it could do what the Perseus does moderately well. Don't get me wrong, Perseus will probably be better in a fight since that's the only thing it does and the thing it's designed for. But just like Starfarer Gemini is surprisingly fun to hunt bounties with, I'd imagine BMM has plenty of fight in it on top of working as a freighter, explorer and a pop-up shopping mall. So I'm not sure if Perseus is dissimilar enough for me. Still... maybe I'll grab one just in case. Hm. Decisions, decisions.
 
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