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I don’t recall asking you any questions. You were as always pretending to engage when you had other designs. You are as always, a thoroughly dishonest man, playing pretend.
The problem is not with my wording, but with your poor reading comprehension. Americans develop skills well past yours by the age of nine. I did not say anything about the numbers of Africans victimized by the Atlantic trade. I said the US brought in fewer slaves when it was legal and this is entirely correct. We brought 388k African slaves in directly. The 400,000 figure is indeed greater than that.
AI says “Approximately 388,000 enslaved Africans were directly transported to North America during the transatlantic slave trade. However, an additional 60,000 to 70,000 Africans may have arrived in the United States after being initially taken to the Caribbean, bringing the total to around 450,000. This represents a small fraction of the total 12.5 million Africans forced into the transatlantic slave trade.”
Maybe if you just read slower and sound out all the words?
The 400,000 figure is obviously in round numbers, but this is the number recorded by our Boarder Patrol who entered the country without their parents that they then lost contact with. Interviews with Boarder Patrol Agents say they had contact numbers to call and check up on these kids and when they called, they got no answer. The kids are gone.
Yeah, there may be some who are okay but these kids are missing and other agencies have tried to track them down so far unsuccessfully. It is a tragedy because the Boarder Patrol Agents say they knew they should not have released these kids but were ordered to. We know we have a huge problem but we don’t know exactly what the problem’s details are. All we know is 400,000 kids are missing, almost all of them from Guatemala. It looks like they were trafficked in.
None of these kids could have entered the country during Trump’s previous or current term because Trump’s policy does not allow such entry. Knowing this, they would likely never have left Guatemala. So this is a problem caused entirely by the sick and twisted policies of child-sniffer Joe Biden, or as his son Hunter calls him, “Pedo Joe”.
BTW, the numbers are way crazier than this. ICE has found at least 85,000 kids, but the original totals of kids missing were as high as 880,000. There are a bunch of numbers being floated by different agencies. The 400,000 figure is in the middle I have found of who is currently missing. This is what happens when you have between 12-20M people cross illegally inside just 4 years.
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So i checked an Ai with the exact sentece "388,000 enslaved Africans were directly transported to North America during the transatlantic slave trade" and most sources the AI uses point to articles that in turn point to the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade database. Well made site with lots and lots of data.
And it's true, that website spits out less than 400.000 slaves taken from Africa directly to the USA. Actually they only got records of 92,164 enslaved africans between 1776 (founding of the USA) and 1865 (abolishment of slavery in the USA).
Didn't know that the actual import of slaves was already illegal by 1808. You live and you learn I guess.
Problem is though that the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade database does not cover all slave trade. They are a tool for historians and people trying to trace back their heritage. So only well documented trade voyages of the British, the French and the Dutch are covered to to the quality and abundance of paperwork. Still impressive work there.
I do admit that the 10 to 15 million slaves estimate covers all of the Americas. Not the North alone. Guess if you gotta google, goole it right.
Sorry about that.
As for my reading comprehension, I am impressed by the formidable intelligence of the entirety of the teens in the United States. I would have hoped that there exists at least one kid with dislexia. But seems your country was spared such impurities.
What I can say with conviction though is that there is at least one American severely lacking manners.
Freedom of speach is a wonderful thing.
Until it becomes a mere carte blanche for insults and racial slurs.
I'm always open for discussions.
But name calling is wasting my time.
And it's true, that website spits out less than 400.000 slaves taken from Africa directly to the USA. Actually they only got records of 92,164 enslaved africans between 1776 (founding of the USA) and 1865 (abolishment of slavery in the USA).
Didn't know that the actual import of slaves was already illegal by 1808. You live and you learn I guess.
Problem is though that the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade database does not cover all slave trade. They are a tool for historians and people trying to trace back their heritage. So only well documented trade voyages of the British, the French and the Dutch are covered to to the quality and abundance of paperwork. Still impressive work there.
I do admit that the 10 to 15 million slaves estimate covers all of the Americas. Not the North alone. Guess if you gotta google, goole it right.
Sorry about that.
As for my reading comprehension, I am impressed by the formidable intelligence of the entirety of the teens in the United States. I would have hoped that there exists at least one kid with dislexia. But seems your country was spared such impurities.
What I can say with conviction though is that there is at least one American severely lacking manners.
Freedom of speach is a wonderful thing.
Until it becomes a mere carte blanche for insults and racial slurs.
I'm always open for discussions.
But name calling is wasting my time.
That gas lighting isn't going to work this time and I'm embarrassed that it worked last time. You need more horses in your stable because I've ridden and broken this one and parked it in the stable over at TEST Central where we are enjoying playing tic-tac-toe and singing drinking songs.
You made a claim that was demonstrably incorrect. It was proved incorrect. You chucked in some other stuff which was also proved incorrect. You then mixed in some stuff which may or may not have been correct but was unrelated, and some truisms which were undeniably correct but again unrelated to your original statement which was proved incorrect and your secondary statement which was proved incorrect.
Like our mutual friend in the post above, there is always the option open to you to say you got a point wrong.
I have countered you purely on two points as I live in the place you made statements about which I didn't recognise:
1) You knew about it before the British Public, no you didn't they knew in 2014, and then there was a 7 year inquiry the release of which was public and which you appear to have heard about upon its conclusion. You didn't hear about it before the British public did. You just didn't. You got it wrong.
2) "All grooming gangs are pakistani" no, they're not. Your following theory that there could be thousands more suspects is where I gave up as it didn't counter the fact that even if there were the same number as there were domestic suspects, there were still many thousands of domestic suspects. Not all grooming gangs are pakistani. They just aren't. You got it wrong.
On your moral points of justice I can't agree with you more it's a basic truism justice must be applied evenly, but on your facts you've got these two wrong and all I wanted to know was how those falsehoods ended up in your head being called upon like they were facts.
My not blindly agreeing with you or entertaining what-it's, theories and unrelated asides doesn't make me dishonest. It makes me harder to be dishonest to and you're not going to make me feel bad about that this time. So if it was a Facebook documentary like you say, it was wrong and you have been misinformed. Someone made you believe you knew something The British public didnt. Someone made you believe all grooming gangs in the UK were Pakistani.
Who? Why? For what benefit, you live at least 3000 miles away?
And why does my asking that make you uncomfortable?
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Why are you guys even wasting your time with our friend here?
We’ve been down this road so many times over the years….yes YEARS. He starts a thread that he knows is controversial even when he knows damn well most of the active users here want nothing to do with it. Bashing Disney, ‘Woke’ politics, immigrant bashing, vaccine skepticism, DEI casting, firearms, etc. They’re all controversial issues sensible people stay away from, especially in an online community dedicated to a fucking video game.
Consider the number of new posts he starts here. The man is chronically online and THE most active starter of new threads. Most of them get zero engagement and eventually just die out. He doesn’t want healthy, open discussions. He only wants nodding heads to agree with him and for this website to be his personal blog for fuck knows what reason.
Let’s not feed the troll. Just ignore all his posts.
We’ve been down this road so many times over the years….yes YEARS. He starts a thread that he knows is controversial even when he knows damn well most of the active users here want nothing to do with it. Bashing Disney, ‘Woke’ politics, immigrant bashing, vaccine skepticism, DEI casting, firearms, etc. They’re all controversial issues sensible people stay away from, especially in an online community dedicated to a fucking video game.
Consider the number of new posts he starts here. The man is chronically online and THE most active starter of new threads. Most of them get zero engagement and eventually just die out. He doesn’t want healthy, open discussions. He only wants nodding heads to agree with him and for this website to be his personal blog for fuck knows what reason.
Let’s not feed the troll. Just ignore all his posts.
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I can’t read past the first two paragraphs. What I wrote was entirely true and Naff’s paraphrasing with quotes is just sickness. Here’s what I actually said:
“So for instance, the large communities of rapists in England who were ignored by authorities for two decades because they were immigrants, is well known to me despite it has been hidden from much of the public in the UK.”
If you investigate the documents that I linked to in response to Naff’s inquiries, they are government transcripts of discussions inside your Parliment, which are very specific that authorities hid the details of these rapes and refused to even investigate because of the politically correct fear of being called “racist”. I in no way misrepresented myself. If Naff weren’t too lazy and stupid to read the docs he asked for, he would not be getting blocked here.
Naff, you are back on the block list, this time for good. I have no more time to waste on such a thoroughly dishonest man.
Mud, you did toss half dozen slights at me before I responded in kind. Go back and read your posts. They were very snarky. That I can cope with. Snarky is fine but you can’t then complain when someone responds in kind.
This whole thread has like many others been waylaid by folks looking for a tussle. Naff chief among them. That is a problem I will not need to endure in the future.
Bye bye, NaffNaff.
As to the whole disagreement over firearms, I respect both sides. The Brits have the Queens English, and we have Mel Gibson.
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“So for instance, the large communities of rapists in England who were ignored by authorities for two decades because they were immigrants, is well known to me despite it has been hidden from much of the public in the UK.”
If you investigate the documents that I linked to in response to Naff’s inquiries, they are government transcripts of discussions inside your Parliment, which are very specific that authorities hid the details of these rapes and refused to even investigate because of the politically correct fear of being called “racist”. I in no way misrepresented myself. If Naff weren’t too lazy and stupid to read the docs he asked for, he would not be getting blocked here.
Naff, you are back on the block list, this time for good. I have no more time to waste on such a thoroughly dishonest man.
Mud, you did toss half dozen slights at me before I responded in kind. Go back and read your posts. They were very snarky. That I can cope with. Snarky is fine but you can’t then complain when someone responds in kind.
This whole thread has like many others been waylaid by folks looking for a tussle. Naff chief among them. That is a problem I will not need to endure in the future.
Bye bye, NaffNaff.
As to the whole disagreement over firearms, I respect both sides. The Brits have the Queens English, and we have Mel Gibson.
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I accept your total retreat as your acceptance you were wrong on both counts as demonstrated:
1) The British Public were aware 8 years before you were.
2) 85% of grooming gangs are of white ethnicity.
As facts they are irrefutable. If I was a chief of anything it was showing you evidence which didn't match your worldview and asking for you to explain yourself, and I think I can live with that label - as I'm sure you can recall it is all I have ever done.
The next time you see some unsubstantiated bullshit like "there are parts of cities in Europe authorities are afraid to go in to because of migration", I very much hope instead of swallowing it down you think of me and cover your ass by going and reading up about it first and asking yourself if what you find contradicts what you are being fed, cutting out the middle-man because that's all I ever did.
Farewell, I look forward to your next SC related posts they are always most illuminating.
Long Post but I’ve been lurking and now need to get this off my chest.
The simple fact is that Shadow doesn't know how to read the room. I'm confident to say that most if not all of us here seek solace from real life issues in video games and video game communities. We come here to get away from politics, religion, culture war issues, etc. TEST is an international organization with members from all over the world complete with diverse viewpoints. It really irks me to no end that our mutual friend here is hellbent on inserting his unsolicited, very American, very Far Right world view here with all the subtlety of a bull in a China shop.
For the record I'm an owner of firearms. I'm a member of a fairly exclusive range and until recently, shoot regularly. I have Sig Sauer and CZ handguns along with an assortment of rifles from .22 to .308. Hell at one point I was seriously considering becoming a fulltime film armorer which would grant me access to fully automatic firearms.
Humble brag aside, I generally don't talk about any of this because I can read the room. I acknowledge that firearms can be an uncomfortable subject for many people, especially folks from countries with strict laws on their possession and usage. In other words it's a matter of RESPECT that I stay away from this topic.
Now onto a personal story....
In the Summer of 2017 I was travelling in Europe and towards the tail end of the trip I found myself in London. Only a couple of weeks prior to my arrival, the 2017 London Bridge Attacks took place. One night I stumbled out of a pub in Soho super late (Made out with a French Au pair who was way too young for me....ah fun times). Because the Tube was closed and knowing that London cabbies cost an arm and a leg, I ended up calling an Uber.
Anyway the driver who picked me up happened to be of mixed Indian and Pakistani descent. He was talkative and we hit it off instantly. I think he was just relived that I wasn't unfriendly because of the recent spate of Islamic terrorism.
We talked about where I was from, where his family was from, travel, football (We both like Arsenal), and food. Guess what happened next? My new found friend ended up showing/driving me around the city for free the following day and even bought me lunch at an Indian place in Brick Lane, East End. That's to this day still the best Indian food I've ever had.
What's the point of my story? Well I'm trying to make the point that this person is a person. He's not a number, statistic, member of some rape gang, and would be potential criminal. Had I treated him like a terrorist, rapist, whatever I would have never had this experience and be for the poorer for it.
Whatever our mutual friend here says about 'Pakistani Rape Gangs' is dehumanizing bullshit. It's fucking racist garbage undoubtedly dredged up from some Far Right source and he ought to be ashamed of himself. Dude sits in his room in New Jersey or wherever the hell he is, watches a couple of YouTube 'documentaries', and thinks he can pass judgement on an entire continent/people.
Mind you this is the same individual who constantly falls for the worst clickbait Star Wars videos (Still think Keanu Reeves is gonna play Revan? lol) and AI generated crap. I remember him posting some fake movie trailer that was immediately debunked by our eagle eyed members here. What does that tell you about his judgement in general?
Pity he'll never see this of course because I'm still blocked by him (Badge of honour). Notice how he's so quick to block people? What a special snowflake.
The simple fact is that Shadow doesn't know how to read the room. I'm confident to say that most if not all of us here seek solace from real life issues in video games and video game communities. We come here to get away from politics, religion, culture war issues, etc. TEST is an international organization with members from all over the world complete with diverse viewpoints. It really irks me to no end that our mutual friend here is hellbent on inserting his unsolicited, very American, very Far Right world view here with all the subtlety of a bull in a China shop.
For the record I'm an owner of firearms. I'm a member of a fairly exclusive range and until recently, shoot regularly. I have Sig Sauer and CZ handguns along with an assortment of rifles from .22 to .308. Hell at one point I was seriously considering becoming a fulltime film armorer which would grant me access to fully automatic firearms.
Humble brag aside, I generally don't talk about any of this because I can read the room. I acknowledge that firearms can be an uncomfortable subject for many people, especially folks from countries with strict laws on their possession and usage. In other words it's a matter of RESPECT that I stay away from this topic.
Now onto a personal story....
In the Summer of 2017 I was travelling in Europe and towards the tail end of the trip I found myself in London. Only a couple of weeks prior to my arrival, the 2017 London Bridge Attacks took place. One night I stumbled out of a pub in Soho super late (Made out with a French Au pair who was way too young for me....ah fun times). Because the Tube was closed and knowing that London cabbies cost an arm and a leg, I ended up calling an Uber.
Anyway the driver who picked me up happened to be of mixed Indian and Pakistani descent. He was talkative and we hit it off instantly. I think he was just relived that I wasn't unfriendly because of the recent spate of Islamic terrorism.
We talked about where I was from, where his family was from, travel, football (We both like Arsenal), and food. Guess what happened next? My new found friend ended up showing/driving me around the city for free the following day and even bought me lunch at an Indian place in Brick Lane, East End. That's to this day still the best Indian food I've ever had.
What's the point of my story? Well I'm trying to make the point that this person is a person. He's not a number, statistic, member of some rape gang, and would be potential criminal. Had I treated him like a terrorist, rapist, whatever I would have never had this experience and be for the poorer for it.
Whatever our mutual friend here says about 'Pakistani Rape Gangs' is dehumanizing bullshit. It's fucking racist garbage undoubtedly dredged up from some Far Right source and he ought to be ashamed of himself. Dude sits in his room in New Jersey or wherever the hell he is, watches a couple of YouTube 'documentaries', and thinks he can pass judgement on an entire continent/people.
Mind you this is the same individual who constantly falls for the worst clickbait Star Wars videos (Still think Keanu Reeves is gonna play Revan? lol) and AI generated crap. I remember him posting some fake movie trailer that was immediately debunked by our eagle eyed members here. What does that tell you about his judgement in general?
Pity he'll never see this of course because I'm still blocked by him (Badge of honour). Notice how he's so quick to block people? What a special snowflake.
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Nah we here are just too inferior to comprehend his intellectual prowess.
I’m sure he gets invited to the coolest parties filled with the most interesting people.
makute
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Usually, I do not engage in politic talk unprompted, specially online; but I feel the need to counter your obviously biased argument: 455.389 victims of catholic priests paedophiles just on my country alone.
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I agree there are pedos aplenty anywhere children are gathered. In the US, the Boy Scouts likewise have this trouble. However, we’re talking about large groups of men who conspire together to victimize children, and I don’t think the RC church has ever been accused of this. Rather, in a community of clergy who cannot marry, they have an epidemic of unfaithfulness. That’s lamentable but it is something else. The Pakistani rape gangs believe what they do is just, because of The West’s licentiousness. Catholic clergy generally just blame themselves.
It’s this theory about justified rape that sets Islamo-fascism apart, and it comes direct from their unholy books. Mohammed was a rapist. This difference I’m pointing out is the reason why Islam is not compatible with Western Civilization at least in its fundamentalist form. There is still a majority of Muslims who are good, decent people. The real problem is that in Islam, the good decent people support the radicals who want Sharia law, death to all Jews, a global Caliphate, etc.
And they are taking over the UK.
It’s this theory about justified rape that sets Islamo-fascism apart, and it comes direct from their unholy books. Mohammed was a rapist. This difference I’m pointing out is the reason why Islam is not compatible with Western Civilization at least in its fundamentalist form. There is still a majority of Muslims who are good, decent people. The real problem is that in Islam, the good decent people support the radicals who want Sharia law, death to all Jews, a global Caliphate, etc.
And they are taking over the UK.
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makute
Space Marshal
Abusos en la iglesia: el caso de abusos a más de 100 niños y jóvenes que llevó a la renuncia por encubrimiento de Justin Welby, el líder de la Iglesia anglicana - BBC News Mundo
El arzobispo de Canterbury, Justin Welby, dimitió este martes por la respuesta de la Iglesia Anglicana durante su mandato a un grave caso de abuso sexual a niños y jóvenes.
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My Spanish is super rusty, way worse than my French. Are you saying they organized their own pedo cult?
In any case my point stands. It would need to be in spite of Christ’s teachings rather than than because of them. There’s nothing orthodox in the RC church contrary to Western Civilization. The Church created Western Civilization.
I’m not here defending the RC church. I’m not in agreement with thousands of their teachings, but they don’t teach that rape is justice.
From the little I can make out, this seems to be saying that a modern cleric in the Anglican, not Roman Catholic Church; is taking responsibility for the abuse of over 100 children half century ago by a guy named John Smyth. Doesn’t sound like a group to me. Terrible to be sure, but not what we’re talking about, I think.
However while we’re on the subject, there are indeed rumors that the clergy in the Church of Ireland (C of I is the Irish Anglican Church) did belong to a secret cabal of Satanists who ran the Hellfire Club atop one of the hills surrounding Dublin, where they abused and sacrificed Irish children in the 18th? Century. The gigantic stone cathedral with no windows was still standing when I was there over 30 years ago. Though many of that “gentlemen’s club” were Anglican clergy, they were first and foremost Satanists, who I have already noted are a notorious exception to any rule of decency.
In any case my point stands. It would need to be in spite of Christ’s teachings rather than than because of them. There’s nothing orthodox in the RC church contrary to Western Civilization. The Church created Western Civilization.
I’m not here defending the RC church. I’m not in agreement with thousands of their teachings, but they don’t teach that rape is justice.
From the little I can make out, this seems to be saying that a modern cleric in the Anglican, not Roman Catholic Church; is taking responsibility for the abuse of over 100 children half century ago by a guy named John Smyth. Doesn’t sound like a group to me. Terrible to be sure, but not what we’re talking about, I think.
However while we’re on the subject, there are indeed rumors that the clergy in the Church of Ireland (C of I is the Irish Anglican Church) did belong to a secret cabal of Satanists who ran the Hellfire Club atop one of the hills surrounding Dublin, where they abused and sacrificed Irish children in the 18th? Century. The gigantic stone cathedral with no windows was still standing when I was there over 30 years ago. Though many of that “gentlemen’s club” were Anglican clergy, they were first and foremost Satanists, who I have already noted are a notorious exception to any rule of decency.
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Oh our mutual friend often accuses TEST members of ‘hijacking’ his posts or whatever.
Buddy then proceeds to derail his own post by jumping from firearms to Pakistani rape gangs or whatever.
‘shrugs’
Buddy then proceeds to derail his own post by jumping from firearms to Pakistani rape gangs or whatever.
‘shrugs’
makute
Space Marshal
This is exactly the reason why I don't engage in politics in online forums. The people with the more factualy wrong opinions are the most vocals, and only seek validation under the guise of honest exchange.
The same happened during the Pinochet regime, or Australia and Canada in the 60's and 70's, or everywhere else in the globe the Catholic Church has set its paws.
How goes the saying? "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." You've been rised to believe a lie and nothing will make you see the truth, sadly.
Yes. In collusion with every right wing government since the dictator Franco regime in the late 30's. That and the thousands of babies stolen at birth and given to wealthy couples.
The same happened during the Pinochet regime, or Australia and Canada in the 60's and 70's, or everywhere else in the globe the Catholic Church has set its paws.
Every historian dead and alive disagrees with you.
How goes the saying? "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." You've been rised to believe a lie and nothing will make you see the truth, sadly.
Almost by definition, Western Civilization is the product of the revelation from Jerusalem and the reason of Athens. It is what the church made it. You are kidding yourself that it comes from something else. Yes, there are elements of Scottish clans and Merovingian kings, but sadly conspiracy theorists like yourself with no education in the matter don’t know what those things are. Virtually all the real historians will say that indeed, Western Civilization is the creation of the Church.
I’ve looked at some of the evidence of the Franco regime kidnappings, but the evidence suggests more that orphans of the war were adopted than that these kids were stollen. Moreover, the records are sketchy in the extreme—hardly enough to hold such strong opinions. Under Pinochet things are different and you can make that case, but it was a few rogue priests, not systemic, not cabals, not a creation of the RC church. There were mostly opportunistic judges, lawyers and social workers involved not in sex trafficking, but in baby sales to adopting parents. Again, nothing like what we are discussing here.
And or course there is the actual point of the discussion, which you are nimbly avoiding. There is nothing in the teachings, oral, written or traditions of The Church, that supports rape as justice. Your examples are not of people seeking justice, nor justifying their actions with church doctrines. That is unique to Islam, Sharia law, and the proposed global Caliphate. Those are the things that propose rape as justice, and the reason 80 men can conspire to gang rape women on public streets.
I’ve looked at some of the evidence of the Franco regime kidnappings, but the evidence suggests more that orphans of the war were adopted than that these kids were stollen. Moreover, the records are sketchy in the extreme—hardly enough to hold such strong opinions. Under Pinochet things are different and you can make that case, but it was a few rogue priests, not systemic, not cabals, not a creation of the RC church. There were mostly opportunistic judges, lawyers and social workers involved not in sex trafficking, but in baby sales to adopting parents. Again, nothing like what we are discussing here.
And or course there is the actual point of the discussion, which you are nimbly avoiding. There is nothing in the teachings, oral, written or traditions of The Church, that supports rape as justice. Your examples are not of people seeking justice, nor justifying their actions with church doctrines. That is unique to Islam, Sharia law, and the proposed global Caliphate. Those are the things that propose rape as justice, and the reason 80 men can conspire to gang rape women on public streets.
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Damn he got us there, boys.
We’re pretty shitty conspiracy theorists though. After all we did miss that bit on 400k children trafficked into the country by Biden and killed. Probably for their Adrenochrones or whatever. Good thing Shadow’s here to set us straight. Bless him.