Please explain how the Reliant as an upgrade from the Avenger?
It is my understanding the Reliant is MISC's starter ship to compete with the Aurora and Mustang.
Most well rounded ship?
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It is my understanding the Reliant is MISC's starter ship to compete with the Aurora and Mustang.
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
One other that wasn't mentioned, but that is probably due to it feeling like abandonware from CIG. The Retaliator, with its choice in modules. Granted it isn't really a solo ship, but then again neither are most of the ships on this list.
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
Holy Crap. My Tali and my Vanguard are fast. :)
The Khartu Al and a lot of Misc ships have a lot of round shapes and rounded curves. I'd go with the Freelancer, it's got a bit of round shapes and can fill a few rolls.
Shadow Reaper
Space Marshal
The Reliant was billed as a top-shelf starter ship, same as the Avenger. It is an upgrade to the Avenger so far as crew number. It's the only starter ship that can take a crew of two. It is however fragile, difficult to fly well since it rotates very slowly on the pitch and yaw and has terrible Y and Z axis acceleration. With one good axis to rotate and straif on it is possible to fly it well, but it's hard to see why you would choose it over the Avenger unless you wanted the second seat or some scan functions the Avenger doesn't offer. It requires a better pilot than any of the other starter ships (maybe any other ship!), so there is some noteriety that goes with being a great Reliant pilot.
Originally it was slated for more cargo than the Avenger and now it has half as much, and originally it had a bed. The changes did not go well for it. They have marked it as now taking S3 weapons whereas originally it mostly held S1s, but they removed all sign of the 10 S1 missiles from the Tana, so who knows what they plan. I think we get new Reliants on the next patch so we'll see. IMHO, they nerfed it very badly when they took the bed out and designed around short range only. Lets hope they fix it. With only 4 units cargo, that bird needs to offer much, much more than it does right now.
If a team of two can work together preplanned to use the higher straif and rotation available for roll and Y axis, and the second seat has a gunner who knows what the pilot will do, it is almost a poor man's Vanguard or Defender, neither of which carry cargo.
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No, Reliant is a two seater (can be used solo, of course), (AFAIK) have higher cargo capabilities, alien tech, two flight modes, and supposedly higher customization than the avenger titan. (advertised as that you can plug different things and tools in your hangar space). It is pretty and CIG is reworking it. CIG is going to make flight ready all the variants, and the variants are much more interesting than most or all smaller ships variants, as you have the cargo area, one to record, other for scanning, and the combat oriented one. Avenger variants are the cargo hauling, the combat oriented and the EMP one.
CIG decided to make it a premium starter package too.
Current stats show reliant like being much more maneuverable (two flight modes, lighter, much more thrusters and the thrusters are fixed) and I am almost sure it will be a less sturdy that Avengers. Reliants have double the fuel tanks.
Avenger have like double the weaponry, but the avanger stats have been improved. I suspect/hope that reliant weapons will get a boost, specially in the combat oriented one.
Ah, I have just seen that supposedly reliant mako have an smaller cargo area, but I think that it is not right It was announced as the small ship with the biggest cargo area, so I would espect it to have maybe 12SCUs. (I think it had 12 in the past when other small ships had 8 and so). But who knowa, maybe CIG intentions have changed with the ship.
As the rework is comming... we will have fresh news.
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If you want not to purchase a connie or bigger, What about just the Freelancer MIS?
Stats page shows a cargo area of 28 and it have plenty of weaponry and missiles.
And being a freelancer, supposedly you could mix it with parts of other freelancer variants. (unless CIG have decided not to go this as they advertised in the past).
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When I started analyzing my first investment in the game, when I had not planned to spend more than 150$, I liked this ship much and I could not purchased it because it being limited (tiem limited only, but I did not knew that when I started). It is obtainable in the anniversary and it is close!
Stats page shows a cargo area of 28 and it have plenty of weaponry and missiles.
And being a freelancer, supposedly you could mix it with parts of other freelancer variants. (unless CIG have decided not to go this as they advertised in the past).
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When I started analyzing my first investment in the game, when I had not planned to spend more than 150$, I liked this ship much and I could not purchased it because it being limited (tiem limited only, but I did not knew that when I started). It is obtainable in the anniversary and it is close!
Oh, could be a great ship if CIG gives it a bit of love. Hmmm, Do not know if the cargo area have a lift added or not, so put a vehicle inside could be impossible.
The participation and feedback on this thread has been awesome! thanks to all. I still don't know which way I'm going to go when the sale hits, but it will probably be either the Avenger Titan or the Cutlass black. If the deals are good enough perhaps both...
I would really love to participate in a multi crew event sometime soon too, so hit me up if you want to get that going.
I would really love to participate in a multi crew event sometime soon too, so hit me up if you want to get that going.
It is my understanding the most reliable way of participating in a crew event is to be on the TEST Discord.
Fanus
Captain
For me it is the Cutlass Black
Grimm_Reaper
Space Marshal
Cutlass Black (I'd suggest getting a Red or Blue and enjoying the black loaner.)
Freelancer (rework might make it indispensable)
Connie Phoenix (more armored, rear turret will be in a later update)
Maybe consider the 300i rework when its out though it cant carry any land vehicles.
I want to say carrack but if you need something that can handle itself in a fight, Valkyrie, Reedemer? or A2 if cost is not a factor.
Freelancer (rework might make it indispensable)
Connie Phoenix (more armored, rear turret will be in a later update)
Maybe consider the 300i rework when its out though it cant carry any land vehicles.
I want to say carrack but if you need something that can handle itself in a fight, Valkyrie, Reedemer? or A2 if cost is not a factor.
Grimm_Reaper
Space Marshal
The carrack only has large scanners has this changed?
SullyQuindarius
Admiral
The Connie Pheonix, only because I have one and it has a bar. If you can get drunk who cares if you're productive?
But in all seriousness probably the Freelancer/Cutlass for the price.
But in all seriousness probably the Freelancer/Cutlass for the price.
Shadow Reaper
Space Marshal
It was slated for large scanner back when they were the largest. CIG decided to add a Cap class afterward and never changed the spec on the Carrack, but the design was from the start for it to provide cap class scan, so it is a safe bet I think it will have this. Otherwise there is little reason to choose it over the Polaris. The Polaris also has Cap scan, but it costs twice as much.
Shadow Reaper
Space Marshal
If you are going to expend that quantity, you could check the Mercury, lol :slight_smile:
Anyway, congrats :)
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
Both Front and Rear Cargo Modules have, according to the module page, lifts. No idea what they will look like after the rework.
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One point, any vehicles would have to load from the front of the rear compartment or the rear of the front compartment meaning unloading both at the same time, plus the personnel elevators being in the same place, potential for serious traffic jams. The Ursa should fit in the front, possibly in the rear.
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