Piracy Piracy Division/Squadron Organization Brainstorm

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Just sitting here, waiting for the ultimate pirate ship to be released. What would that be? I have no idea, but I imagine it'd look like the Black Pearl, and have grappling cannons.

Or maybe just the Cat with grappling cannons. And real cannons.

Fuck, I just want cannons. Broadside cannons.
 

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Just sitting here, waiting for the ultimate pirate ship to be released. What would that be? I have no idea, but I imagine it'd look like the Black Pearl, and have grappling cannons.

Or maybe just the Cat with grappling cannons. And real cannons.

Fuck, I just want cannons. Broadside cannons.
It's probably the Kraken to be honest.

Lots of guns
Can carry and support a pirate fleet
5 doors to load cargo through on top and 1 big one on the bottom
Cavernous storage space
Plenty of beds for logging out
VTOL thrusters for planets

7/9 turrets can shoot on the same broadside. The twin S8 cannons fire port, starbord, and straight ahead.
 

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It's probably the Kraken to be honest.

Lots of guns
Can carry and support a pirate fleet
5 doors to load cargo through on top and 1 big one on the bottom
Cavernous storage space
Plenty of beds for logging out
VTOL thrusters for planets

7/9 turrets can shoot on the same broadside. The twin S8 cannons fire port, starbord, and straight ahead.
Hahahah, yup. Sounds about right. How much was it again?
 

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Hahahah, yup. Sounds about right. How much was it again?
1650, pretty penny.

The humble Cutlass is still probably the best bang for your buck: good weapon and missile potential, decent to good handling, modest cargo bay. Tractor beam included as well afaik when the techs in.

Also is the "sweet spot" of crew complements, able to be solo piloted (with a blade to slave/AI gun the turret) very easily. Or you can go loaded for bear with pilot, co-pilot, gunner, and room for 2 more in jump seats in the back just in case you need someone boarded. Very flexible in a way that most other ships cant be.

All that for 100 bucks is a good deal as far as SC ships are concerned. The Freelancer is also quite good too, with the new autogimbals it can dish out pain to heavier ships with the quad S3s and has better cargo room.
 

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1650, pretty penny.

The humble Cutlass is still probably the best bang for your buck: good weapon and missile potential, decent to good handling, modest cargo bay. Tractor beam included as well afaik when the techs in.

Also is the "sweet spot" of crew complements, able to be solo piloted (with a blade to slave/AI gun the turret) very easily. Or you can go loaded for bear with pilot, co-pilot, gunner, and room for 2 more in jump seats in the back just in case you need someone boarded. Very flexible in a way that most other ships cant be.

All that for 100 bucks is a good deal as far as SC ships are concerned. The Freelancer is also quite good too, with the new autogimbals it can dish out pain to heavier ships with the quad S3s and has better cargo room.
Yeah, the Cutty is a staple. I love her. Specifically, the Blue (so long as the cells can be removed). I just think that I'm waiting for the next "new and shiny" haha.
 

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Yeah, the Cutty is a staple. I love her. Specifically, the Blue (so long as the cells can be removed). I just think that I'm waiting for the next "new and shiny" haha.
I'm hopeful that the Blue might get an EMP as its "hull specific" schtick to match the Hawk as a Police/Bounty Hunter ship. It would make total sense and would help justify the 50% price increase.

Either that or a Quantum Interdiction device would be super lore AND role appropriate.


And...well...I can think of ONE other group of players, aside from Bounty Hunters that might like a Cutlass with extra tools for disabling ships for easier boarding.... 😎☠
 

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I'm hopeful that the Blue might get an EMP as its "hull specific" schtick to match the Hawk as a Police/Bounty Hunter ship. It would make total sense and would help justify the 50% price increase.

Either that or a Quantum Interdiction device would be super lore AND role appropriate.


And...well...I can think of ONE other group of players, aside from Bounty Hunters that might like a Cutlass with extra tools for disabling ships for easier boarding.... 😎☠
Damn. I never thought about a EMP or quantum interdictor in the blue. That would be amazing!
 

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Free if you steal it ;)
Can you imagine how common insurance fraud is going to be?

Oh no, my buddies alt account stole my Polaris and then sold it through another 3rd party to my buddy. Its flagged as a stolen ship but CIG have said you can pay for spoofed codes. Now you just submit a claim for a stolen Polaris and there you go.


Breaks the TOS for sure and CIG will naturally try and crack down on it but I dont see how they could really tell if you have unaffiliated alts and a few people willing to middlemen with no questions asked (which will most likely be the majority of stolen ship sales lol)
 

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Can you imagine how common insurance fraud is going to be?

Oh no, my buddies alt account stole my Polaris and then sold it through another 3rd party to my buddy. Its flagged as a stolen ship but CIG have said you can pay for spoofed codes. Now you just submit a claim for a stolen Polaris and there you go.


Breaks the TOS for sure and CIG will naturally try and crack down on it but I dont see how they could really tell if you have unaffiliated alts and a few people willing to middlemen with no questions asked (which will most likely be the majority of stolen ship sales lol)
I have no idea either. Fraud is fruad. But I'm sure that we'll have many legitamately stolen ships :D
 

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I haven't brought it up with anyone from Rock Raiders or Yellowjackets yet, but would there be any interest on our end on running a PVP op running as an aggressor squadron? Be beneficial for everyone- we could sharpen our teeth on what a typical juicy target + escorts might look like, and Rock Raiders/Yellowjackets get some good experience on what a pirate raid might entail. No real stakes since everything's getting wiped every other week anyway.

Just spitballing, my new PC parts won't even get here until middle of next week.
 

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widespread insurance fraud would be massively inflationary for the in-game economy

CIG will go through a lot of trial and error before they get it under control

having a stable in-game economy is a make-or-break issue for CIG
 

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NPCs will have lotsof stuff we can acquire.
I'm lookingh forward to this. So much fun!
I haven't brought it up with anyone from Rock Raiders or Yellowjackets yet, but would there be any interest on our end on running a PVP op running as an aggressor squadron? Be beneficial for everyone- we could sharpen our teeth on what a typical juicy target + escorts might look like, and Rock Raiders/Yellowjackets get some good experience on what a pirate raid might entail. No real stakes since everything's getting wiped every other week anyway.

Just spitballing, my new PC parts won't even get here until middle of next week.
This would be a riot. And a great way to test TTPs etc.
 

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widespread insurance fraud would be massively inflationary for the in-game economy

CIG will go through a lot of trial and error before they get it under control

having a stable in-game economy is a make-or-break issue for CIG
This is something they have talked about a bit and you are right it's going to be something they will have a hammer for.
 

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Yeah, scamming the insurance is less "teehee we got a free ship" and more "oh lord if I get caught doing this again they'll ban me from the game for a month"

Deffo going to be a TOS violation once insurance actually matters.
I just hope there isn't fowl play. Say I steal a ship and then the owner claims I'm his friend to CIG and then my Completionist level account gets banned.

Or even in an innocent way where I'm borrowing someone's ship for an extended period and they forget so they claim it and I get banned because my friend claimed the ship when I had it.
 

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Insurance fraud will be fought hard. They have already pretty much said you won't be able to keep that stolen ship, but instead will have several options. Most of the consequences will only start once it's reported stolen by having a claim filed.

You can log out in the bed, but the game may not despawn the ship. If someone finds it (PC or NPC), you might end up tossed in jail as you sleep, or just shot in the head depending on who you stole it from. Hint, don't accidentally steal the godfather's 890...
You can go for a joyride, then abandon it when you are done.
You can sell it no questions asked to certain connected used ship salespeople. You will not get anywhere near full price for the vehicle
You can strip it for parts, but those parts will have serial numbers on them, so they will be listed as stolen and you won't get full value. You will probably get close to full value on the scrap if chewed up by a reclaimer, but there is always a chance a marked component will make it through the shredder/crusher and you could end up busted unless you can prove its a legitimate salvage find.
You can take it to a specialist hand have them fix the title for you. This will cost "almost as much as buying the ship from a dealer" according to Chris Roberts. The good news is that you can now insure it, and it will remain yours. It won't inherit LTI though, even if the ship had it in the first place.

Most people will chose one of the first three options as it gives the best bang for the buck. Once thieves find out which is more profitable for a specific ship, expect them to almost always use that method. Most people will not use the last method as it actually costs them money. It's the only way to keep the ship you stole long term.
 
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