I took the 400i as an upgrade to the DUR. It has better shields (1 x S3), better speed (185 SCM, 1250 MAX), better radars (3xS2), larger cargo grid (42SCU) and slightly better armament (6xS3, or 2 x S4 and 4 x S3). It is not, as they claimed, a competitor to the Connie. Unless you are going by ship length alone.
The Origin 400i
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Ship size-wise it is the competitor to the Connie vs the much smaller Freelancer line of ships, which strikes me as weird that it's more compared to the much smaller freelancer ship.
True, but if you knock about 20 meters of that pointy nose off it. It is much closer in size.
Radegast74
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I didn't want to ruin it for anybody else, but this is what I see when I see the 400i
No wonder I love it so much!
Earlier today, I came across a video on YouTube where the person argues that instead of comparing the 400i to any of the Connies, it should be more compared to another ship. Here's the vid in case anybody would like to see. TBH, I think he makes a few valid points.
He does make a few good points, but given his historic bias against anything Origin and for anything Drake, worth taking with a grain or two of salt. I usually enjoy Minion's thought process, but this is an area where he falls on his face occasionally. He does here when trying to equivocate the 400i to the Cutlass.
I was hoping that the 400i would be a genuine competitor to the Freelancer DUR. As it turns out, it's not. There are two key areas that mark it as competition to the Aquila and Corsair.
The first is maneuverability. The Freelancers have much better agility across the board, and can legitimately dogfight (painful tho that might be). 400i, Aquila, Connie are considerably less agile.
The second is a dedicated scanning station. The DUR does not have this while the others do.
A third area I'd like to include would be signature.. prior to 3.15 PTU patch, the 'lancers were quiet.. deadly quiet. Now, I dunno wtf is going on as the values shift from patch to patch. So waiting to see on this one.
The DUR still appears to be a legitimately soloable ship. The 400i somewhat less so (better with crew or blades). The Aquila with no top turret has a serious defensive gap that it needs the P-52 to cover. The Corsair is not in game yet, but if it handles like a Connie (probably) it'll need gunners to survive as well.
IMO, the 400i doesn't compete with any of these ships, or even the MSR. It provides a ship with a unique combination of attributes that has long been asked for, wrapped in a weird looking package.
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Since today PTU patch, the 400i can now fit a ROC.
They increased the ramp and the hangar size a bit.
The 400i kinda sorta resembles a tick or bole weevil, having a broad body with a long snout that points downward.
Its too bad then that the 400i's snout isn't set up as a fuel extraction feature.
Its too bad then that the 400i's snout isn't set up as a fuel extraction feature.
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Apparently the 400i can now fit a Greycat ROC on the ramp and in its cargo bay!
Star Citizen Alpha 3.15.0m PTU.7822079 Patch Notes:
Origin 400i Polish Pass - Increased the capacitor pool on the 400i. Swapped the buttons for door and ramp on the interior so that ramp is on the bottom. Adjusted the 400i landed height, ramp, and lift animations to support larger vehicles in the lift.
Greycat ROC CONFIRMED fit in Origin 400i (Star Citizen 3.15) - YouTube
Star Citizen Alpha 3.15.0m PTU.7822079 Patch Notes:
Origin 400i Polish Pass - Increased the capacitor pool on the 400i. Swapped the buttons for door and ramp on the interior so that ramp is on the bottom. Adjusted the 400i landed height, ramp, and lift animations to support larger vehicles in the lift.
Greycat ROC CONFIRMED fit in Origin 400i (Star Citizen 3.15) - YouTube
Shadow Reaper
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EDIT: PTU 7822709
I think the medium components must be in the middle of a balance pass on PTU. There was no measurable difference in this ship. Neither of Erkul's calculators match these numbers.
Stock except for Hemera QTD:
EM 11649
IR 11150
With Nightfall coolers and Eclipse reactors:
EM 11646
IR 11100
Each fit was run for about 20 minutes while I was afk. IR possibly would have dropped slightly lower with more time, but I have not yet seen it dip below 11000 in any of my game sessions.
EM fluctuates with Thruster usage now, even when stationkeeping. So finding an absolute level may not be practical.
It seemed like the stealth components dropped their levels faster, but again, that's just an impression while doing the 'afk glance at screen'.
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Shadow Reaper
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I'm not surprised. The numbers in erkul are so broken I don't understand how CIG expects us the fly the ships. It certainly does appear the 400 was intended to have a very low IR, just from the presence of the third cooler, and it does appear 1 Eclipse running is enough to power the ship, but the numbers are all wonky.
Have you been able to get a soft mesurement of the rotation rates? Are they closer to the Lancer or the Connie?
Have you been able to get a soft mesurement of the rotation rates? Are they closer to the Lancer or the Connie?