Im hitting on the false framing that if you are a backer of Star Citizen, you must be blind and are being manipulated. The framing from the haters is that if you are logical, you can't possible back the project.
Star Citizen centrism is a lie!
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Now I have watched the video I have been presented with a great many concepts and questions.
As I watched it with the sound off and captions on, my first question is: Why are all the "Refund Ian's" called Ian?
As I watched it with the sound off and captions on, my first question is: Why are all the "Refund Ian's" called Ian?
Well spoken, there is no middle ground... be ballsy, pick a damn side.. 
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... I care about what you say!
are we being scammed? no
are we being manipulated? yes
Chris Roberts isn't taking our money and running off to somewhere without an extradition treaty
however, we have been sold on paying for something we will never own
the value of the intellectual property CIG is developing is far greater than the value of all our virtual spaceships put together
which is fine, more power to 'em, as long as we get entertainment value from playing the game
this (lengthy) article talks about the potential of 'the Metaverse,' which (not coincidentally IMO) sounds a lot like the PU
are we being manipulated? yes
Chris Roberts isn't taking our money and running off to somewhere without an extradition treaty
however, we have been sold on paying for something we will never own
the value of the intellectual property CIG is developing is far greater than the value of all our virtual spaceships put together
which is fine, more power to 'em, as long as we get entertainment value from playing the game
this (lengthy) article talks about the potential of 'the Metaverse,' which (not coincidentally IMO) sounds a lot like the PU
Hey you hit the nail on the head on pretty much everything, I'd agree with 99% of it. But, I think I might still stand by saying that there are people out there who do, used to, or have at some point even just once, guaranteed that Star Citizen will be finished simply because Chris Roberts is involved. And technically anyone who saw the kickstarter and backed without any more consideration than saying, "Wing Commander changed my life and CR made that so Star Citizen will do it too" could fit into that group to a lesser degree. You proved that with the guy who's investment was kicked by CIG. He worshipped the ground CR walked on and was 100% sure that Star Citizen would be perfect without any logical reason. Just because he changed his views doesn't mean that his CR worship didn't happen.
I will absolutely succeed the point that I should have clarified that if there are people (still) out there who have that belief that they are .01% or less of the backers. I mean .01% of 1.5 million is only 150 people.
Joe!
I agree with you, there may well be 150 full on crazies, and they are all on Spectrum apparently.
The point is that you cant let the haters set the narrative. Supporting Star Citizen is the default position, not the white knight position. White knight would be saying CR has never done anything wrong.
God I WISH we could say that CR has never done anything wrong lol. We'll get there.
Apologies in advance to Coolio, I take your genius and rework it to make a minor point that means nothing in comparison to your original message:
Set to Verse 3 of Gangsters Paradise:
Whales and the money, moan-ie and the wails
Plege after pledge, Concepts after sales
everybody's pledgin', but most of them ain't looking
what's going on in the terms, but I don't know what's kickin'
they say I gotta refund, everyones's here to teach me
but if they can't undersstand it, how can they gonna reach me
I guess they can't, I guess they won't
I guess they front, that's why I know my hangars is out of reach, fool
been spending most their lives, living in the Spectrum paradise
been spending most their lives, living in the Spectrum paradise
keep spending most our lives, living in the Spectrum paradise
keep spending most our lives, living in the Spectrum paradise
Tell me why are we, so blind to see
That the one's refundians hurt, are you and me
Tell me why are we, so blind to see
That the one's refundians hurt, are you and me
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Hmm some time I got the feeling that if the supposed "jurnalist" spend some time to actual investigate what they are going to talk about those "refounders" group will simply vanish like mist in the sun since as much as they yell, there will be nobody to listem to them..
Most of the time the simple reason some silly idea is spreading out is becouse people talk about it...
If someone keep talk about stupid thing ar act like an idiot the best, my personal opinion, is not to put them on the fist page of the newspaper, is just to ignore them and don't give them credid.
As I try to repeat my self every time: you can talk with people that have a different idea do to a different point of view, but you can't talk with as stupid that won't listen and don't try to have a different viewpoint (event if they could not like it or agree with it).
Extremism is ALWAYS a bad thing, regardless of what is that about.
Most of the time the simple reason some silly idea is spreading out is becouse people talk about it...
If someone keep talk about stupid thing ar act like an idiot the best, my personal opinion, is not to put them on the fist page of the newspaper, is just to ignore them and don't give them credid.
As I try to repeat my self every time: you can talk with people that have a different idea do to a different point of view, but you can't talk with as stupid that won't listen and don't try to have a different viewpoint (event if they could not like it or agree with it).
Extremism is ALWAYS a bad thing, regardless of what is that about.
Meh... opinions opinions... everyone is entitled but at the end of the day, I'm still playing SC... it doesn't really matter
The moment of brilliant clarity that the RSI boards need refreshed on at the top of each week.
Christ Roberts can do no wrong. Like water into wine, he is literally turning money into product. Who else can do that?
WHO?!?
WHO?!?
Typical thing for an Owl to say ;-)