I'm confused. So the data is that condoms protect you from Covid19 or not? Which is it? Do I wear it on my face like the usual masks?
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GeneticPredator
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Radegast74
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There seems to be a person (or persons) on this thread who ... hard to describe... holds a lot of contradictory views (the Deep State this, the government that, but Trump is telling it straight...) who when you disagree with him, then starts engaging in either ad hominem attacks, or mis-quoting facts or information from other sources.
I have come to the conclusion that he isn't going to be persuaded by any rational discussion.
Im not asking for your permission, I was leading you to a conclusion.
I wore a mask to the grocery store yesterday, not because Im worried about my health, but because the cashier may live with his grandmother, and I don't want to be the one to take her away from him.
How is it you will get sent off to four wars in a sandpit to help Americans you will never meet live their lives and enjoy their freedoms, but you won't put on a mask to protect a cashier right here at home?
Radegast74
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In line with your question, here is a scary thing...Vietnam and China both did everything right (too immediate action, lockdown, quarentine sick people, contact tracing, etc.), and even after that, cases are popping up out of nowhere! *Note --> my fat trend line is hiding the low number of cases in the graphs...)
My biggest fear is that in the US, where we didn't really do (or aren't really going to do) any of that, we will have a slow burn of cases over the summer, and then another big wave in the Fall. I hope not, but, I'm really concerned! If you have family members with risk factors, I would highly recommend they exercise caution!
Because I stay 6 feet away. I'm not in the cashiers face and as I said I do not go to the grocery store. I don't go anywhere, which is why I pester you people so much... it is a lack of things to do. By the way I drank 20 12oz beers last night... I am surprised my responses were as coherent as they were last night.
Now, here is where the liberals try to shame me into wearing mask.
1. It is NOT the law where I live and if it were I would still not wear it... just to piss off the shaming elites of Boulder. By the time this is over you are going to look like the bubble boy.
1. It is NOT the law where I live and if it were I would still not wear it... just to piss off the shaming elites of Boulder. By the time this is over you are going to look like the bubble boy.
SoloFlyer
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Don't forget the claims of persecution when trying to educate with more accurate data.
Who are "you" people?
When or why did wearing a mask become liberal vs conservative ?
WTF is going on here?
You tell me... I do not know why you are trying to bust my balls on this. I told you last night, if I did go some place that had a lot of people I would wear a mask.
This Virus is not going anywhere. The quarantines and lockdowns goal have never been to prevent people from getting sick. Its only goal is to slow down the spread in the hopes that we do not significantly overtax the medical system to the point where no one is able to get adequate treatment. Even this goal recently has been questioned as to the effectiveness of ventilators on the critically ill if it has any impact on the rate of recovery. It could be that the number of recoveries would be the same with our without medical intervention. It's far more humane to those who watch their loved one die knowing the medical community tried instead of saying sucks to be you even if the outcome is the same.
Until a vaccine can be administered in the fall of 2021 there will be hotspots of the virus as it resurges within a community until that communities immunity reaches approx 70%.
Management of Critically Ill Patients with Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is frequently complicated with acute respiratory failure. In this article, we aim to focus on the management of the subgroup of SARS patients who are critically ill. Most SARS patients would require high flow oxygen ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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UK figures for today Thursday 7th of May:
Total confirmed 206,715 with 5,614 new. Total dead 30,615 with 539 new.
Today's status is bough to you by malfunctioning PPE. Do you remember a while back the UK sent an RAF cargo plane to pick up a bunch of medical gowns from Turkey as the shipment was running late? Turns out they have not been distributed as they didn't pass the quality control checks:
Total confirmed 206,715 with 5,614 new. Total dead 30,615 with 539 new.
Today's status is bough to you by malfunctioning PPE. Do you remember a while back the UK sent an RAF cargo plane to pick up a bunch of medical gowns from Turkey as the shipment was running late? Turns out they have not been distributed as they didn't pass the quality control checks:
Coronavirus PPE: Gowns ordered from Turkey fail to meet safety standards
More than 2,000 gowns ordered by the UK do not meet British safety standards, the government confirms.
www.bbc.co.uk
Those figures are frightening. Is the contagion rate in the UK slowing down at all?
I have absolutely no idea. Hospital admissions and deaths appeared to be declining however now the wider population has started to be looked at it is tracking level with the worst patch of the contageon.
I can only imagine what the numbers would have looked like during the peak if we had eyes on the whole population, but we didn't. The old numbers from before including all settings are pretty much moot as the metrics are on a different scale now.
I'm looking of this UK government website.
coronavirus.data.gov.uk
They seem to be omitting information about the number of people who have recovered. Active cases against the number of cases that have recovered. That's a basic way to see where you stand. Any word on that?
UKHSA data dashboard
Overall summary of the respiratory viruses in circulation within the UK
They seem to be omitting information about the number of people who have recovered. Active cases against the number of cases that have recovered. That's a basic way to see where you stand. Any word on that?
I've just been using the Wikipedia article on 'Covid19 pandemic by country' as a non-scientific gauge on where countries stand. The numbers are pretty accurate as this Wikipedia entry is highly fact checked due to it being high profile.
The UK and The Netherlands are notable countries that are lacking in data for people who have recovered from the virus.
The UK and The Netherlands are notable countries that are lacking in data for people who have recovered from the virus.
The goals we had all set was to avoid getting the hospitals overrun on the initial spike.
Numbers of cases are going continue to rise, but as long as people are recovering and leaving hospital beds open for the next person, we are doing things right!
Nope no info on that. Last I saw was near the beginning of the outbreak and I think it was 208 recovered. Since that time it's been omitted, perhaps to stop simpletons from seeing the recovery rate and deciding they would recover if infected. I refer to my earlier rant about there being a strong running narrative of not trusting the population to do what they are told to do.I'm looking of this UK government website.
UKHSA data dashboard
Overall summary of the respiratory viruses in circulation within the UK
They seem to be omitting information about the number of people who have recovered. Active cases against the number of cases that have recovered. That's a basic way to see where you stand. Any word on that?
I see your angle, and would accpet it if it wasn't for the UK working on a track-and-trace app which as with Singapore and some other countries really help with stamping down on pockets of infection, and increasing the testing capabilities exponentially.
It's weird, it started off with track and trace of all infected and their previous contacts, but then that was abandoned in favor of absolutely no action and a statement of "we'll act when the time is right" in contrary to the WHO saying "Test, test, test"... then it was urgent restrictions when it looked like it was going to be an Italy situation, and now we are doing what the WHO said we should have been done from the start with track and trace and getting the testing facilities in place for hundreds of thousands of tests a day etc.
You're not wrong, keeping the hospital capacity below 100% was vital but it's just strange the approach for the UK has flip-flopped about a bit, returning to what it almost was at the beginning...?
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