Finding the right Cargo Hauler (Hull buyer's guide)

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Updated 30 April 2015

New cargo stats update has been applied to the ships, hopefully this update lasts longer than a week this time.

FU = "Freight Units" (old)
SCU = "Standard Cargo Units" (new)

Hull-B it is. Feels Like I was waiting for it now since they first announced it for the 34 Million $ stretch goal.
As Haligan linked forward to:

"PLEASE NOTE: The Hull series measures carrying capacity in Standard Cargo Units, or SCU. The SCU value for previously released ships can be determined by dividing the total capacity by four. The stats page will be updated with proper SCU data shortly. For more information in cargo interaction in Star Citizen, check out today’s design"

Meaning that the 600 Cargo Capacity is 600 SCU, as far as I understand it.

If you got to divide the Cargo capacity of the Avenger by 4 (32/4=8 SCU), then there would theoretically be purpose for the Hull-A, otherwise I would agree with Tooterfish.

With the freelancer max it would make a cargo capacity of 280 into 70 SCU, which is nothing against the 600 of the Hull B.
Would the freelancer really have that small of a cargo space in comparison to the Hull?
I guess they might still adjust some capacity stats here going forward, otherwise I foresee some Freelancer being probably a bit annoyed about the $/SCU comparison.

Hull B = 108 $ = 0.18 $/SCU
Freelancer = 132 $= 3.14 $/SCU
Freelancer Max = 168 $ = 0.60 $/SCU

Based on the base rate per SCU i went for the Hull-B.
The jump from 75 Cargo Capacity from Hull-A a to 600 was just to massive, for not going with the Hull-B.

Btw, ... just in case you now wonder

Hull A = 1.04 $/SCU
Hull B = 0.18 $/SCU
Hull C = 0.05 $/SCU
Hull D = 0.019 $/SCU
Hull E = 0.004 $/SCU

Therefore I would say they did make a quite good economy of scale diversification on the ship sizes and recommend a Freelancer Max over a Hull A, but a Hull B over anything else on the <200 $ range if you are all about space-trucking or logistics.
So let's compare, or fucking try to correctly!

Tier 1 ($60 range): You've got a good selection of ships which can haul AND multi-role, as is the case with the 315p and Avenger. So before you buy the Hull-A for 60 bucks, maybe consider if you'll be interested in bounty hunting and/or exploration too with the addition of superior firepower propulsion and avionics. If you're only hauling <48 SCU and you don't own many ships, I wouldn't bother personally. I'd go for the Avenger or 315p (6 SCU), or even the CL (23 SCU) for style points.



Tier 2 ($100 range): I picked the generic haulers of the Freelancer and Cutlass series, but their variants do well too. If hauling is your passion then there really isn't any competition in the $100 range. Though if you're willing to cut your cargo size down drastically (cutlass supporting 32 SCU and the Max at 123) you gain a LOT more versatility and the firepower to explore dangerous space, but this is about hauling and if hauling is what you're looking to do and you're sticking to secure space or have some broskies to escort you, then the Hull-B is king in this price range based on SCU alone at 384 SCU.



Tier 3 (200'ish+ range): Lots of choices, but again, sooo much versatility in this range. The Hull-C is an attractive choice for hauling. I previously stated that you should skip the C if you have a Starfarer or a MM you may want to consider skipping the C. It is worth noting, however, that the Starfarer may be restricted to fuel and refining so we'll need more info on that. The MM houses a possible 5017 SCU compared to the C's 4608 so keep that in mind. These numbers are subject to change.



Pro Tier: If you got money or you're dead-set on hauling no-shit SCU's around a video game then this is what you're lookin at. The D supports 20736 SCU currently and the E 98304, which dwarfs the Orions standard SCU capacity of only 216 if you were to throw it into this category.



FU hauling Conclusion:

- The Hull-A is attractive if you're looking to make cash trading right away.
- If you have a MM already, you can probably skip the C all together.
- Hull D is best choice for serious freight but at this point and is where we begin to see the most obvious gains over other ships currently available.
- Hull E for the lolz, make sure you solo in dangerous space with a full load and everything streamed through Twitch.tv.
- Check defense capability before you buy and remember the Hull series is a dedicated as fuck hauler.
- These stats have been changing almost daily.
- I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Best hauler for the dollar (imo)?
The Hull-B

Here's a smart british guy talking about it more indepth.

Updated SCU Values as of 29 April 2015
Source: http://imgur.com/a/krTPy








Price per SCU (Getting most out of your dollar)


source: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/255495/merchantman-and-the-new-new-cargo-system-apples-oranges-and-ballparks/

Also read this shit
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-hull-series-ship-talk-commentary-2.3883/#post-45018


Updated Cargo Specs & Official FAQ
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14684-Hull-B-Q-A

Special Thanks To the Following Dudes From Whom This Info is Farmed

Esq
Bishop
Metralla94 aka "The Easter Ninja"
/r/starcitizen (for the graph)
 
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I'm wondering about the comparison between the hull c and the caterpillar. Based on the new SCU numbers, it sounds like the cat holds about 800 SCU vs the hull c's 4800. Doest seem like they're even in the same league when it comes to cargo capacity.

I'm thinking about picking up the hull c and kitting out my caterpillar for non-trading purposes.
 

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Hull-B it is. Feels Like I was waiting for it now since they first announced it for the 34 Million $ stretch goal.
As Haligan linked forward to:

"PLEASE NOTE: The Hull series measures carrying capacity in Standard Cargo Units, or SCU. The SCU value for previously released ships can be determined by dividing the total capacity by four. The stats page will be updated with proper SCU data shortly. For more information in cargo interaction in Star Citizen, check out today’s design"

Meaning that the 600 Cargo Capacity is 600 SCU, as far as I understand it.

If you got to divide the Cargo capacity of the Avenger by 4 (32/4=8 SCU), then there would theoretically be purpose for the Hull-A, otherwise I would agree with Tooterfish.

With the freelancer max it would make a cargo capacity of 280 into 70 SCU, which is nothing against the 600 of the Hull B.
Would the freelancer really have that small of a cargo space in comparison to the Hull?
I guess they might still adjust some capacity stats here going forward, otherwise I foresee some Freelancer being probably a bit annoyed about the $/SCU comparison.

Hull B = 108 $ = 0.18 $/SCU
Freelancer = 132 $= 3.14 $/SCU
Freelancer Max = 168 $ = 0.60 $/SCU

Based on the base rate per SCU i went for the Hull-B.
The jump from 75 Cargo Capacity from Hull-A a to 600 was just to massive, for not going with the Hull-B.

Btw, ... just in case you now wonder

Hull A = 1.04 $/SCU
Hull B = 0.18 $/SCU
Hull C = 0.05 $/SCU
Hull D = 0.019 $/SCU
Hull E = 0.004 $/SCU

Therefore I would say they did make a quite good economy of scale diversification on the ship sizes and recommend a Freelancer Max over a Hull A, but a Hull B over anything else on the <200 $ range if you are all about space-trucking or logistics.
 

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So umm hey guys... Are we still going to be able to race Greycats somewhere in the E?
 

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So umm hey guys... Are we still going to be able to race Greycats somewhere in the E?
More reason for TEST to acquire a Bengal Carrier once the PU comes out... Can always race Greycats on the hangar deck. Not as big, but dodging landing hornets will make it even more fun...
 

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Umm... So HULL-C has 4800 SCU cargo capacity. Orion has 16888 divide by four so 4222 SCU? So in theory me and my crew could use one HULL-C to transfer full ore cargo from orion to a market?
Good point, did not factor in the divide by 4 thing. Added a video explaining it.
 
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If i remember correctly freelancer max had 280 scu and it was not updated to Freight units. Taurus with 1900 freight units goes to 475 scu. And in my opinion that sounds right.
 

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If i remember correctly freelancer max had 280 scu and it was not updated to Freight units. Taurus with 1900 freight units goes to 475 scu. And in my opinion that sounds right.
Wait, the freelancer is on the SCU system? I've heard nothing before the Hull series as well as nothing before the Vanguard are on SCU yet.
 

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Wait, the freelancer is on the SCU system? I've heard nothing before the Hull series as well as nothing before the Vanguard are on SCU yet.
Ye i know but long ago I looked ships from webpage before freight units it said 280 standard cargo units. andromeda had 480 at that time as well. But i am just making wild theory based on earlier webpage stats.
 
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Ye i know but long ago I looked ships from webpage before freight units it said 280 standard cargo units. andromeda had 480 at that time as well. But i am just making wild theory based on earlier webpage stats.
Yea it doesn't help that they released all these cargo-based ships with little to go by in comparing them to the ships we already have. CR must have needed that cheddar for his England trip.
 
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So...is the Hull-A-Palooza pack as big a joke as it seems to be to me?

Seriously...one of each plus an extra Hull A, for a whopping $60 discount, less than 5% off. Swag is swag, i.e.: essentially useless, so I leave it out.

I'm agonizing over a Hull D with LTI, because even if I decide I don't want it later, it will be LTI so I can sell it, as long as I do it before the release date or melt it in favour of...something.
 
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