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Ayeteeone

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Well, Massad Ayoob is the guy who used to teach “blind fighting” back in the 80’s. I would not be surprised to learn he dropped that name since “indexing” is more accurate, but that’s what I was referring to. It’s dicey, and in general a last resort, IMHO.
Fair. His training has developed over the years as case law and real world incidents changed the landscape. His focus on surviving the incident hasn't changed, but certainly the teaching about how to survive both the attack and the legal aftermath has evolved.

I'm all for tools that help you gather information, and/or tip the event in your favor. If a laser can convince the dude to leave, that's a win. If thermal shows where he is so I can NOT be there, that's a win. If I can buy a ticket to Hawaii beforehand and be on the beach instead of in the fight, that's a win..


And to be fair, if you discover someone in your home at night, you should not just execute them. You should make them beg first and maybe surrender. Surrender is much better than killing. As we all know, live bounties are worth more than cold corpses.

How’s that for epic shit talking?
Dis' is why we play games!!
 

Yex

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Here is the problem. They go through a neighborhood and shoot at their rivals, but end up hitting innocents like kids and mothers. This is not cleaning up their own mess, this is hurting people who don't deserve it.
Yeah I don't really have a view on it, I lived through the troubles and haven't seen anything nearly as bad since. World seems pretty safe to me :)

But it's insanely complicated to get your hands on a minigun
Had to laugh a little. I think owning a tank might be more useful, you could do some like extreme gardening with it at least :glorious::o7:

In short, history. The folks who wrote our documents here had enough of the guy in charge of your part of the world at that time, and had an desire for 'the common man' to retain the ability to physically fight back when it got bad enough. It's a fairly well established thing with humanity that on the numbers, governments are the largest killer of their own people. If you doubt, just look around the planet today. It's not changed much.

The flip side of that right (any right!) is responsibility, and being human many of us ain't good at that. So the arguments go back and forth endlessly about what is 'best'.
Ah well we had enough shortly after too!
"The right to bear arms", yeah I just don't really get it - but as I said before, that's what a big husband is for.
Big ole bear arms
 
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Sky Captain

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Dunno for home defense. Would I take time to put on thermal or would I just go it? If I can stumble around the house drunk in the dark and survive I’ve think I’ve got it covered otherwise. So I’d probably go for the pistol loaded with 410 shot for quick defense first. The double barrels are the tanks if needed! Thermal? I will think on it.
 
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Mudhawk

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Had to laugh a little. I think owning a tank might be more useful,
Ah well, the minigun would be usefull for them damn pidgeons.
You should have a look at me cute lil car.
Damn those airborne rats. :mad:
 

Shadow Reaper

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It’s all in good fun to make these jokes, but I would point out to those finger-pointing toward Americans over the fact we allow self defense, that just as you look down on the notion of an armed citizenry, we look down on how you have seemingly lost your civilization altogether. When Americans see the news from across Europe, what we see is the end of Western civilization. In order to cope with declining birth rates, you’ve waved in hordes of folks who do not share your values, and the escalating violence is shocking.

Parts of Paris “infidels” dare not tread, huge communities of rapists and pedophiles in England who escape all accountability for decades, people arrested for silent prayer in public, people arrested for jokes and tweets, people beheaded on city streets, Sweden become the gang rape center of the world, etc. ad nausium.

You are not the folks suited to laugh at others. Tend your own affairs first. You seem to be living the last gasps of breath for your civilization. A joke is a joke but consider the irony here. Which of the symptoms of such sickness above would not be solved by a pocket pistol? Since your men will not defend your women, why not allow the women to defend themselves? This is not a joke. We would never permit the sick insults to civilization that our friends across the pond do. That’s the power of self-defense.
 
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