New 3k series video cards

Bambooza · Sep 15, 2020

Bruttle said:
So I completely skipped the 2000 series cards. I didn't see enough of a performance increase to warrant the upgrade. Sure, it had ray tracing, but my 1080 has been doing plenty good enough and those d*mn bit coin farmers have been running the price up way too high for me to justify the purchase.

But now there's the 3000 series and I'm finally jumping in. I just know buying one is going to be a sh!tshow though on release. It'll be a race to get one before the farmers and scalpers buy them out. So I've been trying to get all the info and rumors I can leading into it. So far:

RTX 3080 is going on sale 9/17/2020 (allegedly at 6am Pacific time)

RTX 3090 is going on sale 9/24/2020

RTX 3070 is going on sale 10/15/2020

Nvidia has a "notify me" sign up for email notifications when they are available

Best Buy will have some 3080 stock arriving on the 16th (rumor)

Newegg had some Asus 3080s in stock for about 20 minutes on the 9th (rumor)

B&H had them available for preorder for short time (rumor and might have been a listing mistake)

That's all I have found. Anyone hear anything else?

Its hot and those cards are going to sell fast.

Michael · Sep 15, 2020

if you can get the FE cards (3070/80) pretty sure thats a no brainer.

For everything else strong "wait and observe the market" suggestion.

ColdDog · Sep 15, 2020

Bambooza said:
Its hot and those cards are going to sell fast.

Yep... I am going to wait it out until the beginning of October. Remember ASUS on other manufacturers/modifiers have preference. I am with you, I skipped the 20 series too as I make a habit to skip generations - ~~$600~~ $700 dollars is a lot of money. Granted, it is not always cheaper to buy legacy equipment - I doubt you'll see a significant decrease in cost on the 10x series. Remember the development is exponential... and Moore's law applies, especially to hardware (1024, 2048, 4096, etc)... look at the cuda cores for the past since the 280 (240 Cores) to 1080 (2560 Cores) to the 3080 (8704 cores). Each generation from here will be more drastic than the other. I can't wait for the 50x (32k in cores) - 60x series (64k in cores) series and beyond :)

Grimbli · Sep 15, 2020

Bruttle said:
RTX 3080 is going on sale 9/17/2020

My birthday is 9/17...just saying.

ColdDog said:
I skipped the 20 series too as I make a habit to skip generations

I saw a chart with projected stats of cards like that and skipped the 20 series as well. I still have a 980ti, but I knew the 2080 wasn't what I wanted.

Ethreck · Sep 17, 2020

I had the same experience.

They need to change the way this happens. It's always the same deal. I would bet that there is some back room deal where a few people come in and buy all available stock even before the things are released. It makes no sense.

wmk · Sep 17, 2020

Happy Birthday, @Grimbli

Yeah, all 3080s are already sold out. I can pre-order MSI's GAMING X TRIO one at my local store though -- they say they're waiting for the delivery.

By the way, I was not going to buy any 30xx this year, but... initial 3080 reviews and tests clarified two very important things:

you can use 3080 with PCI x16 3.0 and performance impact seems to be very low,
3080's power consumption might not be that high as Nvidia stated

That means there is a chance I would not need to replace PSU and motherboard in case I would like to replace my 2070S with 3080 next year, for some strange reason.
My MSI RTX 2070S Gaming X Trio is so powerful, yet very cool and quiet, that there is no other option for me than replace it with the same variant of MSI's RTX 3080.

Richard Bong · Sep 17, 2020

Bruttle said:
So I completely skipped the 2000 series cards. I didn't see enough of a performance increase to warrant the upgrade. Sure, it had ray tracing, but my 1080 has been doing plenty good enough and those d*mn bit coin farmers have been running the price up way too high for me to justify the purchase.

But now there's the 3000 series and I'm finally jumping in. I just know buying one is going to be a sh!tshow though on release. It'll be a race to get one before the farmers and scalpers buy them out. So I've been trying to get all the info and rumors I can leading into it. So far:

RTX 3080 is going on sale 9/17/2020 (allegedly at 6am Pacific time)

RTX 3090 is going on sale 9/24/2020

RTX 3070 is going on sale 10/15/2020

Nvidia has a "notify me" sign up for email notifications when they are available

Best Buy will have some 3080 stock arriving on the 16th (rumor)

Newegg had some Asus 3080s in stock for about 20 minutes on the 9th (rumor)

B&H had them available for preorder for short time (rumor and might have been a listing mistake)

That's all I have found. Anyone hear anything else?

I highly recommend waiting 3-6 months, so they get the launch bugs worked out. You get better cards later, anyway, when the gaming card companies have had time to figure out what can and can't be done with the cards for factory settings anyway.

Sayora · Sep 17, 2020

I Managed to get "add to cart" twice on Newegg, but both times by the time I got to checkout they gave me an out of stock notice

Ethreck · Sep 17, 2020

I wanted a FE 3080 this time. I did not want to wait. Hopefully they release another batch at some point.

wmk · Sep 17, 2020

And here's "my" MSI RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio review, if anyone's interested.
5% faster than the Founders Edition, cool (max temp. doesn't exceed 71 deg) and silent (max 33dB).

MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO review

In this review, we benchmark the GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X Trio from MSI; yes MSI is back with a new Gaming X Trio, with that TRIO, of course, short for a triple-fan solution with an otherwise heavil... Introduction

www.guru3d.com

Cool-Hand-Luke · Sep 17, 2020

NVIDIA RTX 3080 In Stock Tracker - NowInStock.net

Looking for NVIDIA RTX 3080 but having no luck? Maybe our FREE NVIDIA RTX 3080 In Stock Tracker can help!

www.nowinstock.net

Hope this helps.
Happy hunting.

Ethreck · Sep 17, 2020

wmk said:
And here's "my" MSI RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio review, if anyone's interested.
5% faster than the Founders Edition, cool (max temp. doesn't exceed 71 deg) and silent (max 33dB).

MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO review

In this review, we benchmark the GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X Trio from MSI; yes MSI is back with a new Gaming X Trio, with that TRIO, of course, short for a triple-fan solution with an otherwise heavil... Introduction

www.guru3d.com

Is that a 2 slot card?

wmk · Sep 17, 2020

Ethreck said:
Is that a 2 slot card?

3 slots thick and very large

Grimbli · Sep 18, 2020

wmk said:
Happy Birthday, @Grimbli

Thanks!

Richard Bong said:
I highly recommend waiting 3-6 months

I'll probably wait for a 3080ti. I like getting the TI of cards.

wmk said:
3 slots thick and very large

Damn boy! He thicc!

Grimbli · Sep 18, 2020

Ethreck said:
They need to change the way this happens

Bruttle said:
Apparently, bots are far more wide spread than I thought

Games Workshop released a new box with their 9th edition and it was bought out in less than 15 minutes. Apparently bots and duplicate accounts bypassed the limit and bought everything. They released a statement within a few days saying anyone that wants a box can preorder and they'll ship them out as they're made. But could take up to 6 months to fulfill all the orders. Within a day the jacked up prices on Ebay lowered back down to just above the box price.

I think that's the way to go. Let the stock sell out and then allow anyone to still backorder. Making sure people will get a card and leaving scalpers with a huge stock of cards that they really can't sell except to the desperate.

NaffNaffBobFace · Sep 18, 2020

Bruttle said:
100% this. I've been looking into it off and on all day. I just found it ridiculous that they sold out so quick. I've experienced this kind of thing before with tickets, but not hardware. I didn't think I would be able to get a FE, but I thought I could at least get a EVGA, MSI, or some card somewhere. They were all gone though by the time anything could clear the cart. I knew they would go quick, maybe 5min to a half hour, but not instantaneously.

As an answer, I found this article from PC Mag (HERE) and it all started to make sense. Apparently, bots are far more wide spread than I thought. This release was riddled with them. The service that PC mag wrote about was actually bragging with screenshots of their clients getting up to 42 cards, 30 cards, etc. It was so bad, Nvidia was actually tweeting that they are going to manually review the orders for bots. So yes. They need to change the way this happens.

Oh, and Newegg stated that they had more traffic this morning at 6am pst than on black friday....

Thanks for the info on this. I had zero intention of getting a 3k card and was looking at the prices of current/previous gen stuff to fall in the toilet (I can dream, po' man needs 8gb vRAM), but seeing the way 'bots have sprayed this launch with liquid dook...

Well, it's not Cricket.

I can only hope there are "Shipping Delays" for anyone they can identify as having made a purchase/s via a 'bot, which would hopefully teach anyone looking to make money off this to not do in future. Oh, you want to put the control in your hands with an unfair tactic and maybe even profit off of others by selling it as a service to them? Well you are not in control, not by a long way, and it does say "Please allow 28 days for arrival" in the Terms, and news for you: it 'aint getting a stamp put on it until day 26 by which time all your scalping and pre-order customers will have walked and stocks will be on store shelves.

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