Official Stance on Evocati Posts

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RussianJ, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. Varku

    Varku Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2016
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    4,634
    RSI Handle:
    Varku
    This is actualy one of the bigger reasons why Evocati is under NDA, so the community can't moan about a feature that may be published to evocati but will never see the ptu or even the live server, as it turns out to be trash.
     
    AstroSam likes this.
  2. Thalstan

    Thalstan Vice Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2016
    Messages:
    400
    Likes Received:
    1,347
    RSI Handle:
    Thalstan
    Most people do not really want to see the down and dirty builds. No matter how people complain about not being in the "alpha" alpha, they are usually the same ones who complain and moan (different from reporting) about crashes, bugs, jitters, and things not generally working. I've seen this in many of the other "alphas" I've been in. Landmark, Gal Civ III, etc. Those where you really got to see the alpha content where things were not feature complete. People said they wanted to experience the "Alpha", not realizing it's not even a Beta quality where things are feature complete, but completely unbalanced.

    If you REALLY want to be part of the Evocati team, then prove you belong there. The Evocati are people who play horrible builds, with constantly changing features/tweaks (think about how you felt when they changed the SCM speeds initially...now think about them changing some of them every build - ie, every day). Play...a lot. More importantly, write a lot of bug reports. Go through the issue council posts and work to confirm a lot of the bugs that have been reported. Post pictures and video to show what happened. Take detailed notes (and I mean EXTREMELY detailed notes) about what you did to find the bug. Don't just report a bug, test it in multiple scenarios and see when it shows up and where. Does it only happen in certain circumstances, or is it always there? Is it there and clears up when you do something else? Does that always fix it, or only sometimes. When, why, where?

    If all you want is just to have early access to something because you feel you are entitled to it...do us all a favor and wait for the additional waves or just test on the "live" server. Most people who feel that way only get frustrated and don't add real value, while taking slots from those that might really contribute. If you are serious about testing, then don't wait to be invited to the Evocati. Do the same work they do and eventually, you will probably be recognized for doing that type of work and get invited to officially join them. Like many jobs and martial arts, you won't get promoted until you have shown that you are already at that level of (work, skill, etc). Show them your dedication. What you put into testing now will show them how serious you are about it when they consider new Evocati later.
     
    Varku and AstroSam like this.
  3. AstroSam

    AstroSam Barrista
    Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2016
    Messages:
    5,557
    Likes Received:
    18,279
    RSI Handle:
    AstroSam
    I just wanted to answer "no" and then "no". But then you are going over to point out the more important things, to which I fully agree: the quality of the reports, making screenshots and vids, understand and reproduce reported bugs, comment on them, giving detailed hints and descriptions. And, finally: having the then the luck - or perhaps recommendation - to be chosen as potential pre-alpha-tester. Finally you can decide whether to sign the NDA or not. But if you do, you therewith have the responsibility to test - and not complain - based upon dedicated tasks. You then have to do, which finally hasn't much to do with "gaming" but more with a side job; except of any payment or else ;) /0.02$
     
    Carlos Spicyweiner and Varku like this.
  4. NaffNaffBobFace

    NaffNaffBobFace Grand Admiral
    Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,504
    Likes Received:
    5,610
    RSI Handle:
    NaffNaffBobFace
    2.6 is live - if you want to get the early bug reports in, now is the time!
     
    AstroSam likes this.
  5. AstroSam

    AstroSam Barrista
    Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2016
    Messages:
    5,557
    Likes Received:
    18,279
    RSI Handle:
    AstroSam
  6. ShakyWater

    ShakyWater Commander

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    504
    RSI Handle:
    shakywater
    I'm taking this. It's mine now.
     
    Sportsvee and AstroSam like this.
  7. ShakyWater

    ShakyWater Commander

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    504
    RSI Handle:
    shakywater
    Try it without smashing the avocados into a pulp. Chop them into chunks instead.
     
    AstroSam and Zapp Brannigan like this.
  8. hardroc77

    hardroc77 Admiral
    Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2015
    Messages:
    1,532
    Likes Received:
    4,852
    RSI Handle:
    hardroc77
    Here here!
     
    AstroSam likes this.
  9. DirectorGunner

    DirectorGunner Admiral
    Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2016
    Messages:
    779
    Likes Received:
    3,135
    RSI Handle:
    DirectorGunner
  10. Ammorn

    Ammorn Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2014
    Messages:
    1,068
    Likes Received:
    4,260
    RSI Handle:
    Ammorn
    OOooooh, I gotcha. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Say no more.

    [​IMG]
     
    DirectorGunner and Daak Seed like this.
  11. PrimeCronus

    PrimeCronus Commander

    Country:
    Spain
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2017
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    271
    RSI Handle:
    Nero_Genesys
    What is it EVOCATI? I see everyone speak about it but i can't understand what is it exactly!
     
  12. cerated

    cerated Captain

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2017
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    379
    RSI Handle:
    cerated
    I keep thinking of the Illuminati when i think about EVOCATI.
     
  13. supitza

    supitza Admiral
    Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,008
    Likes Received:
    3,503
    RSI Handle:
    AstroSupitza
    It's the first wave of non-CIG testers.
     
    hardroc77 and Blind Owl like this.
  14. NaffNaffBobFace

    NaffNaffBobFace Grand Admiral
    Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,504
    Likes Received:
    5,610
    RSI Handle:
    NaffNaffBobFace
    They are specially invited to be the first wave of testers based on their work reporting bugs to CIG using the Issue Council. Also referred to as the "Avocados".
     
    hardroc77, supitza and Blind Owl like this.
  15. maynard

    maynard Grand Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2014
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    7,426
    RSI Handle:
    mgk
    avocados also agree to an NDA, hence our policy of not publishing leaks attributed to them
     
  16. Blind Owl

    Blind Owl Hallucinogenic Owl
    Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2015
    Messages:
    13,503
    Likes Received:
    42,777
    RSI Handle:
    Blind_Owl
    You mean the Owlluminati.
     
  17. cerated

    cerated Captain

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2017
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    379
    RSI Handle:
    cerated
    I hear they are a real hoot.
     
  18. Blind Owl

    Blind Owl Hallucinogenic Owl
    Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2015
    Messages:
    13,503
    Likes Received:
    42,777
    RSI Handle:
    Blind_Owl
    You know it. They have beerish wisdom.
     
  19. Floating Cloud

    Floating Cloud Vice Admiral
    Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Messages:
    493
    Likes Received:
    1,441
    RSI Handle:
    Floating_Cloud
    It's said that they can bend spoons with their minds, and move beer with a single thought.

    This guy is probably Evocati:

    [​IMG]

    This guy is DEFINITELY Evocati:

    [​IMG]

    Probably not this guy though:

    [​IMG]

    You learn to be able to spot them.
     
    hardroc77, Blind Owl and supitza like this.
  20. cerated

    cerated Captain

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2017
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    379
    RSI Handle:
    cerated
    This makes BlackSunder EVOCATI
     

Share This Page