Hi There.
Need a LTI ship but didn't have the cash to get it at the time of sale?
Here's all the LTI original pledges I have available:
SHIP | quantity available | RSI melt cost
I am the original owner of all these pledges, most are in my buybacks.
To calculate your paypal fees you can use this link http://www.gregledet.net/ppfcm.html
for invoices, PayPal's international fee rate is 4.8% + $0.30, I'll refund the paypal fee difference depending on your fees after the invoice is paid.
I maintain the right to refuse to sell to some individuals, explanation is below right before the edited section.
My related reddit store is here
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/comments/7isgt0/store_gunners_depot_at_cost_pp_fees_lti_pledges/
^- my old shop is no longer on Reddit due to basically purging my personal account.
If there's something you need not listed above, try out any of these fellow TESTie stores.
Some even offer at cost from buybacks too.
Blind Owl's Emporium of Ships and Stuff
Elmy's Buyback shop
GrumpyCat We'll miss you She's back!!
Makute-We'll miss you
Phantomoftruth Hangar Spring Cleaning
Marcel Busse strookas store
Sirus7264 Buyback shop
SpudNyk's Buybacks for TESTies
If there's still something you can not find, make a WTB thread in the marketplace here
and hopefully one of these legendary backer TESTies will be willing to help you out.
Also, my buyback pledges are open to anyone that is
A) Paypal verified or pays with ETH cryptocurrency
and
B) Does not sell pledges for profit as a business anywhere (I will check)
if you sold a couple ships for profit before that's okay.. I just do not want to sell an at cost pledge to
a seller that will then go around and sell the same pledge for a big profit or charging people profit
when they just benefited from an at cost sale.
This has happened before and I don't want the same experience of finding out again.
EDIT: UPDATE JULY 2018
This tutorial below is a relic of the past, LTI pledges are now WARBOND only.
Meaning you can only get them with real cash.
You can no longer leverage your RSI to a mass excessive LTI buybacks for your fleet/friends/etc.
IMO this makes older LTI buybacks that much more valuable for the community at large.
Once they're gone, they're gone. No more excess of LTI tokens and LTI pledges.
If you haven't done a bunch of grey market / p2p ship trades,
please read my tutorial below for your own safety.
I hope the tutorial part of this post was helpful.
See my next reply below for more details and info which can't fit on this post.
https://testsquadron.com/threads/ships-for-testies-long-term-pledge-plan-tutorial.9423/#post-153841
Need a LTI ship but didn't have the cash to get it at the time of sale?
Here's all the LTI original pledges I have available:
SHIP | quantity available | RSI melt cost
- ADD-ONS - AEGIS WRECKING CREW PACK LTI 8 $950
- ADD-ONS - AIR AND SPACE PACK LTI 23 $250
- ADD-ONS - ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE MEGA PACK LTI 13 $405
- ADD-ONS - AOPOA NOX 2 PACK LTI 91 $75
- ADD-ONS - AOPOA NOX 5 PACK LTI 24 $180
- ADD-ONS - BANU COMBO PACK 21 $515
- ADD-ONS - DELUXE GROUND VEHICLE PACK LTI VIP 12 $725
- ADD-ONS - GROUND VEHICLE PACK LTI VIP 18 $320
- ADD-ONS - OFFROAD VEHICLE PACK LTI 37 $110
- ADD-ONS - ORIGIN 600I SERIES COMBO PACK - LTI 2 $835
- ADD-ONS - RACE TEAM PACK - LTI 61 $115
- ADD-ONS - STARFARER + NOX 2 PACK LTI 24 $365
- ADD-ONS - THE TORTOISE AND THE HURRICANE LTI 12 $345
- ADD-ONS - TUMBRIL CYCLONE PACK LTI 15 $255
- ADD-ONS - X1 THREE-PACK - LTI 48 $130
- STANDALONE SHIP - AEGIS ECLIPSE LTI 58 $275
- STANDALONE SHIP - AEGIS HAMMERHEAD LTI 14 $650
- STANDALONE SHIP - AEGIS VULCAN LTI 16 $200
- STANDALONE SHIP - ANVIL HAWK LTI 41 $90
- STANDALONE SHIP - ANVIL HURRICANE LTI 18 $175
- STANDALONE SHIP - AVENGER TITAN RENEGADE - LTI 6 $75
- STANDALONE SHIP - BANU DEFENDER 6 $185
- STANDALONE SHIP - CONSOLIDATED OUTLAND PIONEER LTI 3 $850 (1 on hold)
- STANDALONE SHIP - MISC RAZOR LTI 40 $135
- STANDALONE SHIP - ORIGIN 600I EXPLORATION EDITION - LTI 3 $435
- STANDALONE SHIP - ORIGIN 600I LUXURY EDITION - LTI 2 $400
- STANDALONE SHIP - ORIGIN 85X - LTI 26 $50
- STANDALONE SHIP - RSI POLARIS - LTI 1 $750
- STANDALONE SHIP - TUMBRIL CYCLONE LTI 32 $50
- STANDALONE SHIP - TUMBRIL NOVA TANK LTI 50 $105
- STANDALONE SHIP - VANGUARD HOPLITE - LTI 1 $225
- STANDALONE SHIP - X1 BASELINE EDITION - LTI 26 $40
- STANDALONE SHIP - X1 FORCE EDITION - LTI 28 $50
- STANDALONE SHIP - X1 VELOCITY EDITION - LTI 27 $45
- PACKAGE - UEE EXPLORATION 2948 PACK - LTI 1 $695
I am the original owner of all these pledges, most are in my buybacks.
To calculate your paypal fees you can use this link http://www.gregledet.net/ppfcm.html
for invoices, PayPal's international fee rate is 4.8% + $0.30, I'll refund the paypal fee difference depending on your fees after the invoice is paid.
I maintain the right to refuse to sell to some individuals, explanation is below right before the edited section.
^- my old shop is no longer on Reddit due to basically purging my personal account.
If there's something you need not listed above, try out any of these fellow TESTie stores.
Some even offer at cost from buybacks too.
Blind Owl's Emporium of Ships and Stuff
Elmy's Buyback shop
Phantomoftruth Hangar Spring Cleaning
Marcel Busse strookas store
Sirus7264 Buyback shop
SpudNyk's Buybacks for TESTies
If there's still something you can not find, make a WTB thread in the marketplace here
and hopefully one of these legendary backer TESTies will be willing to help you out.
Also, my buyback pledges are open to anyone that is
A) Paypal verified or pays with ETH cryptocurrency
and
B) Does not sell pledges for profit as a business anywhere (I will check)
if you sold a couple ships for profit before that's okay.. I just do not want to sell an at cost pledge to
a seller that will then go around and sell the same pledge for a big profit or charging people profit
when they just benefited from an at cost sale.
This has happened before and I don't want the same experience of finding out again.
EDIT: UPDATE JULY 2018
This tutorial below is a relic of the past, LTI pledges are now WARBOND only.
Meaning you can only get them with real cash.
You can no longer leverage your RSI to a mass excessive LTI buybacks for your fleet/friends/etc.
IMO this makes older LTI buybacks that much more valuable for the community at large.
Once they're gone, they're gone. No more excess of LTI tokens and LTI pledges.
If you haven't done a bunch of grey market / p2p ship trades,
please read my tutorial below for your own safety.
The following became outdated when in 2018 CIG only put LTI on Warbond pledges or large packs.
Quick tutorial on how to pledge when you want and how you want.
Simple solution is to have the value of the most expensive ship you want or more in RSI credit which you can use to juggle ship purchases. Simply put, 24 hours after you buy, melt your ships (NON-warbond) and repeat until you build up your buyback list with all ships you want in your fleet.
Your buyback list is now your long term pledge plan!
Let me explain.
You can take your time now and buy your ships back with cash,
and then finalize your RSI credit on that most expensive ship you wanted...
OR keep the credit floating to continue to secure yourself concept ships.
There is one caveat... CIG says they do not want the buyback list as long term storage (which IMO is counter production for generating more income) and they will eventually do away with it all together. However when that time comes they'll give us plenty of warning. So keep this in mind as you create your long term pledge plan. It also helps to create a spreadsheet of all your buybacks with their quantities and costs.
For example, I've calculated via using a spreadsheet, that once I finalize my RSI credit to secure a Javelin, my long term pledge plan would be somewhere over $7,630 for the rest of the ships that I want. With this info I can plan how much to set aside a month over the next two years... which comes to about $318 a month... For me.. that's a bit too much to spend on entertainment each month.. But add in tax returns and eBay sales and some other bonus income... and it turns out to be more manageable over a 2 year period. Then if I consider the possible utility (econ term) that my pledges will provide me over the course of Star Citizen's lifespan... it may actually become a great use of my income for entertainment purposes. But I digress.
Some things to consider first and while continuing to pledge:
Quick tutorial on how to pledge when you want and how you want.
Simple solution is to have the value of the most expensive ship you want or more in RSI credit which you can use to juggle ship purchases. Simply put, 24 hours after you buy, melt your ships (NON-warbond) and repeat until you build up your buyback list with all ships you want in your fleet.
Your buyback list is now your long term pledge plan!
Let me explain.
You can take your time now and buy your ships back with cash,
and then finalize your RSI credit on that most expensive ship you wanted...
OR keep the credit floating to continue to secure yourself concept ships.
There is one caveat... CIG says they do not want the buyback list as long term storage (which IMO is counter production for generating more income) and they will eventually do away with it all together. However when that time comes they'll give us plenty of warning. So keep this in mind as you create your long term pledge plan. It also helps to create a spreadsheet of all your buybacks with their quantities and costs.
For example, I've calculated via using a spreadsheet, that once I finalize my RSI credit to secure a Javelin, my long term pledge plan would be somewhere over $7,630 for the rest of the ships that I want. With this info I can plan how much to set aside a month over the next two years... which comes to about $318 a month... For me.. that's a bit too much to spend on entertainment each month.. But add in tax returns and eBay sales and some other bonus income... and it turns out to be more manageable over a 2 year period. Then if I consider the possible utility (econ term) that my pledges will provide me over the course of Star Citizen's lifespan... it may actually become a great use of my income for entertainment purposes. But I digress.
Some things to consider first and while continuing to pledge:
- I know I may never be able to fully attain my long term pledge goal before the buyback list is done away with. Keep this in mind while building your long term pledge plan.
- I don't yet know how NPCs and player ship renting will work in the PU. So if I'm the only one able to fly or use my own ships then I'll have to adapt my pledge goal. Keep this in mind if you're building a large fleet.
- Long term pledging in this fashion is not for everyone. But consider this... If you do micro-purchases on mobile games.. if over time you find yourself spending hundreds to thousands on games like that (like myself)... Star Citizen would be a good alternative candidate for your micro-purchase spending... which will actually do some real good (supporting this game's development) and in some cases may even be tax deductible (speak with your CPA).
Some ships are haul limited. Such as idris, javelin, etc.. if you melt these you may not be able to buy them back. Keep that in mind when building your long term pledge plan.see replied comments below
In my opinion, there is a REALLY DUMB stigma when it comes to grey market trading of ship pledges.
Most of that stigma comes from people making a profit from selling their pledges and scammers.
Here's my views.
Most of that stigma comes from people making a profit from selling their pledges and scammers.
Here's my views.
- YES you take full responsibility when trading pledges and CIG is not able to intervene if issues arise.
- YES it's much much higher risk than just pledging directly.
- NO buying a pledge from someone's buyback DOES HELP CIG, all that money for the buyback goes directly to CIG. And so long as the trade was only for cost + pp fees, the only thing that doesn't go to CIG is the small pp fee so that the seller doesn't incur a loss.
- You can melt the pledges you acquire by trading and buy them back with cash. This resets the date acquired for the pledge BUT allows you to gift it if so desired. And the added benefit of DOUBLING the income CIG would otherwise make because of you MELTING a GIFT and BUYING it back... AGAIN.. directly through CIG.
- Instead of referring to the subreddit, I am now simply telling people to find a friend or an ORG mate who has a buyback for the ship they want and ask if they'll GIFT it. The terms of such to be discussed privately between the two of them. This way I am not referring to a "greymarket platform" and encouraging the CIG gifting system to be used within the confines of the personal agreement between the two parties trading.
- In my opinion, selling ship pledges for a large cash profit is disgusting. Because you're not fairly ENABLING fellow SC fans to acquire what they missed out on. You're instead increasing the penalty of missing out on a pledge. And the fallacious rationality of "well it's rare and this is what others are selling it for" is dumb and selfish. In my opinion "OTHERS" selling for a profit, or turning pledge trading into a business NEED TO FIND ANOTHER BUSINESS to get into. Selling any pledge for a profit is not within the spirit of what the pledge system was for. The pledge system was made to SUPPORT CIG... NOT YOU. So find another hobby or "business". #triggered
- Just be honest, responsible, and respectful (seller and buyer) to each other and all will go well!
See my next reply below for more details and info which can't fit on this post.
https://testsquadron.com/threads/ships-for-testies-long-term-pledge-plan-tutorial.9423/#post-153841
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